I agree. I would love to be the next quizmaster, but I would be
affraid that I would run out of ideas and time pretty quickly. It
needs someone as dedicated as James was. Shame to see you going James,
them 3 years went quick. You done a great job.
Regards,
Lee
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On Jan 30, 4:46 am, Todd Benson <caduce...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 29, 2008 5:49 PM, Thomas Wieczorek <wieczo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
I agree that the summary is usually pretty good. James is very insightful.
Nothing against rubyquiz2, but maybe the quiz could take on more of a
community effort? Like a project on rubyforge backed by a group of
people (not me, of course, mostly because I'm an idiot
I feel like the quiz handling is too big for one person, unless, of
course, that person realizes that being timely is important, which
James was exceptional at.
I agree that the summary is usually pretty good. James is very insightful.
Hey all summaries are not from him LOL, no but that is an important
think to know.
Nothing against rubyquiz2, but maybe the quiz could take on more of a
community effort?
I have already expressed my interest to be part of such a team but in
a private discussion with James. Obviously the time has come to
discuss this publicly. Count me in.
Like a project on rubyforge backed by a group of
people (not me, of course, mostly because I'm an idiot
If being an idiot is a problem count me out again ;).
I feel like the quiz handling is too big for one person, unless, of
course, that person realizes that being timely is important, which
James was exceptional at.
Amen, maybe we need a "responsible" or "project admin" in good old
open source tradition but I feel that only a team can make this going
on, there will be no JEG IV (pun intended of course).
Cheers
Robert
my little copper pieces,
you mean your change from the last Ruby Quiz???
···
Todd
---
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Ludwig Wittgenstein
all right Robert, you're in as well.
we definitely are getting enough people that we need to establish some roles and a decision making process that avoids fighting or problems among everyone with a focus on producing and maintaining quizes
···
On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Robert Dober wrote:
I agree that the summary is usually pretty good. James is very insightful.
Hey all summaries are not from him LOL, no but that is an important
think to know.
Nothing against rubyquiz2, but maybe the quiz could take on more of a
community effort?
I have already expressed my interest to be part of such a team but in
a private discussion with James. Obviously the time has come to
discuss this publicly. Count me in.
Like a project on rubyforge backed by a group of
people (not me, of course, mostly because I'm an idiot
If being an idiot is a problem count me out again ;).
I feel like the quiz handling is too big for one person, unless, of
course, that person realizes that being timely is important, which
James was exceptional at.
Amen, maybe we need a "responsible" or "project admin" in good old
open source tradition but I feel that only a team can make this going
on, there will be no JEG IV (pun intended of course).
Cheers
Robert
my little copper pieces,
you mean your change from the last Ruby Quiz???
Todd
---
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Ludwig Wittgenstein
I don't have the time to be a quizmaster, but I enjoy coming up with
quizzes, and have contributed several to James. I'm sure there are
*lots* of people like me on the list - the ideas aren't a problem,
it's the coordination and summaries that take time and energy.
martin
···
On Jan 30, 2008 1:45 PM, <ljjarvis@googlemail.com> wrote:
I agree. I would love to be the next quizmaster, but I would be
affraid that I would run out of ideas and time pretty quickly. It
needs someone as dedicated as James was. Shame to see you going James,
them 3 years went quick. You done a great job.
I think that a lot of decisions (like the logo contest mentioned above)
hinge on whether James lets the current Ruby Quiz site sit or whether he
decides to allow someone else to post future Ruby Quizzes to the site.
I think that keeping the current Ruby Quiz web site but with new management
is the best solution as it:
- Preserves continuity between Ruby Quiz 1.0 and 2.0. Very seamless
transition.
- Is easier for the RQ maintainers (no new website to create!).
- Keeps everything in one place.
And then all that is needed is a Wiki/email inbox for Ruby Quiz
submissions. A weekly chat/Skype call can decide what one will be picked
for the week. I think a wiki with a "featured article" a la Wikipedia would
be the best solution technically but the secrecy of quizzes are in the
pipeline is kinda appealing about the Ruby Quiz 1.0 system.
What do you think?
Dan
···
On Jan 31, 2008 12:03 AM, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Robert Dober wrote:
>> I agree that the summary is usually pretty good. James is very
>> insightful.
> Hey all summaries are not from him LOL, no but that is an important
> think to know.
>>
>> Nothing against rubyquiz2, but maybe the quiz could take on more of a
>> community effort?
> I have already expressed my interest to be part of such a team but in
> a private discussion with James. Obviously the time has come to
> discuss this publicly. Count me in.
>> Like a project on rubyforge backed by a group of
>> people (not me, of course, mostly because I'm an idiot
> If being an idiot is a problem count me out again ;).
>>
>> I feel like the quiz handling is too big for one person, unless, of
>> course, that person realizes that being timely is important, which
>> James was exceptional at.
> Amen, maybe we need a "responsible" or "project admin" in good old
> open source tradition but I feel that only a team can make this going
> on, there will be no JEG IV (pun intended of course).
> Cheers
> Robert
>>
>> my little copper pieces,
> you mean your change from the last Ruby Quiz???
>>
>> Todd
>
> ---
> Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
> Ludwig Wittgenstein
>
all right Robert, you're in as well.
we definitely are getting enough people that we need to establish
some roles and a decision making process that avoids fighting or
problems among everyone with a focus on producing and maintaining quizes
I have a #rubyquiz channel on Freenode. You all are welcome to use it to coordinate, if you want.
James Edward Gray II
···
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:03 PM, John Joyce wrote:
On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Robert Dober wrote:
I agree that the summary is usually pretty good. James is very insightful.
Hey all summaries are not from him LOL, no but that is an important
think to know.
Nothing against rubyquiz2, but maybe the quiz could take on more of a
community effort?
I have already expressed my interest to be part of such a team but in
a private discussion with James. Obviously the time has come to
discuss this publicly. Count me in.
Like a project on rubyforge backed by a group of
people (not me, of course, mostly because I'm an idiot
If being an idiot is a problem count me out again ;).
I feel like the quiz handling is too big for one person, unless, of
course, that person realizes that being timely is important, which
James was exceptional at.
Amen, maybe we need a "responsible" or "project admin" in good old
open source tradition but I feel that only a team can make this going
on, there will be no JEG IV (pun intended of course).
Cheers
Robert
my little copper pieces,
you mean your change from the last Ruby Quiz???
Todd
---
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Ludwig Wittgenstein
all right Robert, you're in as well.
we definitely are getting enough people that we need to establish some roles and a decision making process that avoids fighting or problems among everyone with a focus on producing and maintaining quizes
This has already been covered previously. James even covered this weeks ago regarding the site. He also reiterated it yesterday.
He will keep the site up, but is not in a position to make it available to other management.
Change is part of life and it may not be as good as James' quiz, but it will be somewhat different.
···
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:51 PM, Daniel Finnie wrote:
I think that a lot of decisions (like the logo contest mentioned above)
hinge on whether James lets the current Ruby Quiz site sit or whether he
decides to allow someone else to post future Ruby Quizzes to the site.
I think that keeping the current Ruby Quiz web site but with new management
is the best solution as it:
- Preserves continuity between Ruby Quiz 1.0 and 2.0. Very seamless
transition.
- Is easier for the RQ maintainers (no new website to create!).
- Keeps everything in one place.
And then all that is needed is a Wiki/email inbox for Ruby Quiz
submissions. A weekly chat/Skype call can decide what one will be picked
for the week. I think a wiki with a "featured article" a la Wikipedia would
be the best solution technically but the secrecy of quizzes are in the
pipeline is kinda appealing about the Ruby Quiz 1.0 system.
What do you think?
Dan
On Jan 31, 2008 12:03 AM, John Joyce > <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> > wrote:
Yeah, I feel it's just better to move it to a new site. My scripts are all intimately tied to my hosting account, so I can't easily open it up to others.
I also feel it will give the new maintainer(s) more options, since they don't need to worry about all of the legacy data. I'll keep the site online as an archive and add a link to the new quiz.
James Edward Gray II
···
On Jan 31, 2008, at 7:15 AM, John Joyce wrote:
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:51 PM, Daniel Finnie wrote:
I think that a lot of decisions (like the logo contest mentioned above)
hinge on whether James lets the current Ruby Quiz site sit or whether he
decides to allow someone else to post future Ruby Quizzes to the site.
I think that keeping the current Ruby Quiz web site but with new management
is the best solution as it:
- Preserves continuity between Ruby Quiz 1.0 and 2.0. Very seamless
transition.
- Is easier for the RQ maintainers (no new website to create!).
- Keeps everything in one place.
And then all that is needed is a Wiki/email inbox for Ruby Quiz
submissions. A weekly chat/Skype call can decide what one will be picked
for the week. I think a wiki with a "featured article" a la Wikipedia would
be the best solution technically but the secrecy of quizzes are in the
pipeline is kinda appealing about the Ruby Quiz 1.0 system.
What do you think?
Dan
On Jan 31, 2008 12:03 AM, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com >> > >> wrote:
This has already been covered previously. James even covered this weeks ago regarding the site. He also reiterated it yesterday.
He will keep the site up, but is not in a position to make it available to other management.
Speaking of scripts, it'd be cool for an automated checking system
similar to codegolf.com that could check solutions. Maybe make a few
test cases known, and have a few that you don't tell the users.
Joe
···
On Jan 31, 2008 8:31 AM, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:
On Jan 31, 2008, at 7:15 AM, John Joyce wrote:
>
> On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:51 PM, Daniel Finnie wrote:
>
>> I think that a lot of decisions (like the logo contest mentioned
>> above)
>> hinge on whether James lets the current Ruby Quiz site sit or
>> whether he
>> decides to allow someone else to post future Ruby Quizzes to the
>> site.
>>
>> I think that keeping the current Ruby Quiz web site but with new
>> management
>> is the best solution as it:
>> - Preserves continuity between Ruby Quiz 1.0 and 2.0. Very seamless
>> transition.
>> - Is easier for the RQ maintainers (no new website to create!).
>> - Keeps everything in one place.
>>
>> And then all that is needed is a Wiki/email inbox for Ruby Quiz
>> submissions. A weekly chat/Skype call can decide what one will be
>> picked
>> for the week. I think a wiki with a "featured article" a la
>> Wikipedia would
>> be the best solution technically but the secrecy of quizzes are in
>> the
>> pipeline is kinda appealing about the Ruby Quiz 1.0 system.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2008 12:03 AM, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com > >> > > >> wrote:
> This has already been covered previously. James even covered this
> weeks ago regarding the site. He also reiterated it yesterday.
> He will keep the site up, but is not in a position to make it
> available to other management.
Yeah, I feel it's just better to move it to a new site. My scripts
are all intimately tied to my hosting account, so I can't easily open
it up to others.
I also feel it will give the new maintainer(s) more options, since
they don't need to worry about all of the legacy data. I'll keep the
site online as an archive and add a link to the new quiz.
The minus of a system like that though is how much you have to tied it down. Try requiring a standard library in a codegolf submission, for example. Not happening. It would be a shame to lose all of that freedom.
James Edward Gray II
···
On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:23 PM, Joe wrote:
Speaking of scripts, it'd be cool for an automated checking system
similar to codegolf.com that could check solutions. Maybe make a few
test cases known, and have a few that you don't tell the users.
The minus of a system like that though is how much you have to tied it
down.
It would be cool though if some specs/tests were available (maybe even
included in the quiz announcement) so that one could easily check
one's code ... also to promote good practice.
If a team of 4+ people is doing this, I'd suggest that only one person
knows the quiz in advance -- maybe by rotation.
We've done this at times. The downside is that it discourages people from test driving their solution in their own way.
In the end, I decided variety would be the great equalizer during my run with the quiz. That way everyone gets what they want some of the time.
James Edward Gray II
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On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:15 AM, tho_mica_l wrote:
The minus of a system like that though is how much you have to tied it
down.
It would be cool though if some specs/tests were available (maybe even
included in the quiz announcement) so that one could easily check
one's code ... also to promote good practice.
