Eclipse & subversion

ruby-talk
1

Hi

I am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.

In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:

"Subclipse Mylar Integration (1.0.1) requires
plug-in "org.eclipse.mylar.tasks.core (0.9.2)", or later version."

Then I have difficulty finding how to install Mylar.

Then I find the Mylar project is now something different (Mylyn I believe) and
Mylar has to be deinstalled.

Is anyone in a position to give me instructions on how to enable eclipse to be
able to checkout/checkin from a subversion repository and be able to use it
via Aptana?

Thanks

David Southwell

2

Hi,
just one question: could you make a detailed selection of what should
be installed of Subclipse? I've had the same problem installing
subversive and I just disable a subselect and everything's fine. Mylar
is probably never needed to communicate with a svn-repository...

In trying to add subeclipse I get the message: "Subclipse Mylar Integration (1.0.1) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.mylar.tasks.core (0.9.2)", or later version."

Then I have difficulty finding how to install Mylar.

Then I find the Mylar project is now something different (Mylyn I believe) and
Mylar has to be deinstalled.

I think the package structure of Mylar is renamed to Mylyn because of
changing the projectname. So it doesn't fit.

Hope I could help.

Have fun,
Bjoern

···

--
Viele Grueße / Best regards

Bjoern Jensen
web: http://www.jughh.org

3

Hi. I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.

···

On 7/4/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:

Hi

I am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.

In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:

4

This is not OT!!

It is about programming Ruby using a version of eclipse which has been
developed as an IDE for Ruby Programming.

I am sorry you are confused.

If you had read my Original Post (see below) you will see reference to Aptana
which provides one the extensions that contribute to the IDE especially for
Ruby and Ruby on Rails prpogramming. I assumed those likely to reply to my
post would be able to both read and understand my OP.

There must be some Ruby programmers who use eclipse as their IDE. If you do
not then I humbly suggest you take a careful look at it. You may find it
extremely helpful to code in that environment.

David Southwell

···

On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:42:06 Gregory Brown wrote:

On 7/4/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.
>
> In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:

Hi. I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.

******************************
Hi

I am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.

In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:

"Subclipse Mylar Integration (1.0.1) requires
plug-in "org.eclipse.mylar.tasks.core (0.9.2)", or later version."

Then I have difficulty finding how to install Mylar.

Then I find the Mylar project is now something different (Mylyn I believe) and
Mylar has to be deinstalled.

Is anyone in a position to give me instructions on how to enable eclipse to be
able to checkout/checkin from a subversion repository and be able to use it
via Aptana?
**********************************

5

Okay, then where is the Ruby?

···

On 7/5/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:

On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:42:06 Gregory Brown wrote:
> On 7/4/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.
> >
> > In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:
>
> Hi. I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
> to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.

This is not OT!!

It is about programming Ruby using a version of eclipse which has been
developed as an IDE for Ruby Programming.

I am sorry you are confused.

6

It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related to
your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for Eclipse,
except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not mind the
occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory Brown, it would be courteous
(and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject line (or even a
[Slighty OT]).

···

On 7/5/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:

On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:42:06 Gregory Brown wrote:
> On 7/4/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.
> >
> > In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:
>
> Hi. I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
> to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.

This is not OT!!

It is about programming Ruby using a version of eclipse which has been
developed as an IDE for Ruby Programming.

I am sorry you are confused.

If you had read my Original Post (see below) you will see reference to
Aptana
which provides one the extensions that contribute to the IDE especially
for
Ruby and Ruby on Rails prpogramming. I assumed those likely to reply to my
post would be able to both read and understand my OP.

There must be some Ruby programmers who use eclipse as their IDE. If you
do
not then I humbly suggest you take a careful look at it. You may find it
extremely helpful to code in that environment.

David Southwell

7

Sorry I do not agree - and I feel you guys are wasting your own energy in
what others might consider to be constipated proscriptive dialogues. Choosing
to make badly judges nit-picking grouches instead offering positive
contributions is IMHO a grossly discourteous pastime.

You are also way off target as the topic is not at all tangental. Aptana is a
dedicated Ruby and Ruby on Rails development tool-- and being able to use
Aptana with a subversion server is solely of interest to Ruby and Ruby on
Rails developers.

If you are not now willing to acknowledge that then I cannot remedy an
ignorance that flies in the face of the facts.

I have now solved the problem - if other Ruby programmers want to know how to
use Aptana for Ruby programming so they can check in and out of a subversion
server within the Aptana Ruby solution they can email me directly.

David Southwell

···

On Thursday 05 July 2007 07:20:50 Logan Capaldo wrote:

On 7/5/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:42:06 Gregory Brown wrote:
> > On 7/4/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.
> > >
> > > In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:
> >
> > Hi. I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
> > to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.
>
> This is not OT!!
>
> It is about programming Ruby using a version of eclipse which has been
> developed as an IDE for Ruby Programming.
>
> I am sorry you are confused.
>
> If you had read my Original Post (see below) you will see reference to
> Aptana
> which provides one the extensions that contribute to the IDE especially
> for
> Ruby and Ruby on Rails prpogramming. I assumed those likely to reply to
> my post would be able to both read and understand my OP.
>
> There must be some Ruby programmers who use eclipse as their IDE. If you
> do
> not then I humbly suggest you take a careful look at it. You may find it
> extremely helpful to code in that environment.
>
> David Southwell

It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related to
your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for Eclipse,
except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not mind the
occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory Brown, it would be courteous
(and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject line (or even a
[Slighty OT]).

8

I strongly disagree with Gregory's and Logan's POV.
We had so much more OT stuff, I feel that this is not OT at all, BTW
it does not interest me a tiny little bit, but there is a difference
between OT and Does not interest me.

Furthermore I do not remember any post of bad form or content by
David, if you have an issue with David, maybe you can handle it OL?

Cheers
Robert

···

On 7/5/07, Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/5/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:42:06 Gregory Brown wrote:
> > On 7/4/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.
> > >
> > > In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:
> >
> > Hi. I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
> > to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.
>
> This is not OT!!
>
> It is about programming Ruby using a version of eclipse which has been
> developed as an IDE for Ruby Programming.
>
> I am sorry you are confused.
>
> If you had read my Original Post (see below) you will see reference to
> Aptana
> which provides one the extensions that contribute to the IDE especially
> for
> Ruby and Ruby on Rails prpogramming. I assumed those likely to reply to my
> post would be able to both read and understand my OP.
>
> There must be some Ruby programmers who use eclipse as their IDE. If you
> do
> not then I humbly suggest you take a careful look at it. You may find it
> extremely helpful to code in that environment.
>
> David Southwell
>

It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related to
your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for Eclipse,
except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not mind the
occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory Brown, it would be courteous
(and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject line (or even a
[Slighty OT]).

--
I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java.
I just didn't know it would be called Ruby
-- Kent Beck

9

Or you could also use the very active Aptana forums, where you're most
likely to get the best results:

···

On 7/5/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:

I have now solved the problem - if other Ruby programmers want to know how to
use Aptana for Ruby programming so they can check in and out of a subversion
server within the Aptana Ruby solution they can email me directly.

10

Actually, I have no issue at all with David. I thought that my
suggestion was a polite one, but I can see how it could be
misinterpreted. I'm just thinking that with all the possible editors
with Ruby modes, maybe we'd end up with way more traffic than we can
handle if we started fielding a bunch of non-ruby questions.

I mean, the question was about configuring SVN, not about something
like "matching do/end braces or Ruby syntax coloring". That to me
feels like the kind of question that would be much better asked on a
project's own forums or mailing lists. It just so happens that Aptana
has a very active community[0], so all the better.

As I mentioned, I have no problem with posts like that here because
they definitely might be interesting to some of our readers. But
they're not on the topic of Ruby. They're on the topic of how to
configure a tool that can be used in Ruby development and might be
used by a minority of our readers here. That to me is off topic, or
at least tangental. Indicating it in the subject line is not a rule,
just a matter of politeness. (And an easy thing to do!)

I disappeared for a while because I was having trouble keeping up with
RubyTalk, but now I'm trying very hard to keep up again. Small
courtesies go a long way in helping make the list more easily
readable.

-greg

[0] Aptana.com | Axway

···

On 7/5/07, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related to
> your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for Eclipse,
> except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not mind the
> occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory Brown, it would be courteous
> (and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject line (or even a
> [Slighty OT]).
>
I strongly disagree with Gregory's and Logan's POV.
We had so much more OT stuff, I feel that this is not OT at all, BTW
it does not interest me a tiny little bit, but there is a difference
between OT and Does not interest me.

Furthermore I do not remember any post of bad form or content by
David, if you have an issue with David, maybe you can handle it OL?

11

> > It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related to
> > your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for Eclipse,
> > except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not mind the
> > occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory Brown, it would be courteous
> > (and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject line (or even a
> > [Slighty OT]).
> >
> I strongly disagree with Gregory's and Logan's POV.
> We had so much more OT stuff, I feel that this is not OT at all, BTW
> it does not interest me a tiny little bit, but there is a difference
> between OT and Does not interest me.
>
> Furthermore I do not remember any post of bad form or content by
> David, if you have an issue with David, maybe you can handle it OL?

Actually, I have no issue at all with David. I thought that my
suggestion was a polite one, but I can see how it could be
misinterpreted. I'm just thinking that with all the possible editors
with Ruby modes, maybe we'd end up with way more traffic than we can
handle if we started fielding a bunch of non-ruby questions.

Good point, but was not clear at all to me.

I mean, the question was about configuring SVN, not about something
like "matching do/end braces or Ruby syntax coloring". That to me
feels like the kind of question that would be much better asked on a
project's own forums or mailing lists. It just so happens that Aptana
has a very active community[0], so all the better.

Yeah you said that but later.

As I mentioned, I have no problem with posts like that here because
they definitely might be interesting to some of our readers. But
they're not on the topic of Ruby. They're on the topic of how to
configure a tool that can be used in Ruby development and might be
used by a minority of our readers here. That to me is off topic, or
at least tangental. Indicating it in the subject line is not a rule,
just a matter of politeness. (And an easy thing to do!)

I disappeared for a while because I was having trouble keeping up with
RubyTalk, but now I'm trying very hard to keep up again. Small
courtesies go a long way in helping make the list more easily
readable.

I agree, and I feel very good about your reply, I just thought that we
- and you included - throw that [OT] thing at anybody, so I felt err a
little sorry for David.

I respect your POV but I still feel that the traffic on this list is
quite ok for that kind of permissiveness, but I will watch out myself
to stay on topic if this opinion is shared.

Most important thing is to openly talk about it, what we did :slight_smile:
And sorry for the jumped conclusion about the issue, that was a bad
interpretation on my part :(.

Cheers
Robert

···

On 7/5/07, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/5/07, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

--
I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java.
I just didn't know it would be called Ruby
-- Kent Beck

12

Thank you -- it is good to see a positive contribution from you

David Southwell

···

On Thursday 05 July 2007 08:30:09 Gregory Brown wrote:

On 7/5/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:
Sorry I do not agree - and I feel you guys are wasting your own energy in
what others might consider to be constipated proscriptive dialogues.
Choosing
to make badly judges nit-picking grouches instead offering positive
contributions is IMHO a grossly discourteous pastime.

You are also way off target as the topic is not at all tangental. Aptana is
a dedicated Ruby and Ruby on Rails development tool-- and being able to
use Aptana with a subversion server is solely of interest to Ruby and
Ruby on Rails developers.

If you are not now willing to acknowledge that then I cannot remedy an
ignorance that flies in the face of the facts.
I have now solved the problem - if other Ruby programmers want to know

> how to use Aptana for Ruby programming so they can check in and out of a
> subversion server within the Aptana Ruby solution they can email me
> directly.

Or you could also use the very active Aptana forums, where you're most
likely to get the best results:
Aptana.com | Axway

13

I agree

Small courtesies do help but big courtesies go a long way. A small courtesy is
NOT to be pedantic. A big courtesy is to be constructive as possible at all
times rather than picking nits. Franky I find contributions that tell people
how they should or should not behave at best irritating as well as
discourteous and at worst inflamatory and best avoided.

I do not know how you know what proportion of readers use any particu;lar tool
nor was I aware a discussion was likely to of OT if it happens, in your
opinion (however that may be arrived at) to be of interest to a minority
however large or small.

So lets drasw a close to this and hopefully future dialogues will be
constructive.

david Southwell

···

On Thursday 05 July 2007 08:44:13 Gregory Brown wrote:

On 7/5/07, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related
> > to your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for
> > Eclipse, except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not
> > mind the occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory Brown, it would
> > be courteous (and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject
> > line (or even a [Slighty OT]).
>
> I strongly disagree with Gregory's and Logan's POV.
> We had so much more OT stuff, I feel that this is not OT at all, BTW
> it does not interest me a tiny little bit, but there is a difference
> between OT and Does not interest me.
>
> Furthermore I do not remember any post of bad form or content by
> David, if you have an issue with David, maybe you can handle it OL?

Actually, I have no issue at all with David. I thought that my
suggestion was a polite one, but I can see how it could be
misinterpreted. I'm just thinking that with all the possible editors
with Ruby modes, maybe we'd end up with way more traffic than we can
handle if we started fielding a bunch of non-ruby questions.

I mean, the question was about configuring SVN, not about something
like "matching do/end braces or Ruby syntax coloring". That to me
feels like the kind of question that would be much better asked on a
project's own forums or mailing lists. It just so happens that Aptana
has a very active community[0], so all the better.

As I mentioned, I have no problem with posts like that here because
they definitely might be interesting to some of our readers. But
they're not on the topic of Ruby. They're on the topic of how to
configure a tool that can be used in Ruby development and might be
used by a minority of our readers here. That to me is off topic, or
at least tangental. Indicating it in the subject line is not a rule,
just a matter of politeness. (And an easy thing to do!)

I disappeared for a while because I was having trouble keeping up with
RubyTalk, but now I'm trying very hard to keep up again. Small
courtesies go a long way in helping make the list more easily
readable.

14

Yeah, I've had a few[0], actually. Logan[1], too.

[0] http://tinyurl.com/2od5ak
[1] http://tinyurl.com/2kdsbw

···

On 7/5/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:

> Or you could also use the very active Aptana forums, where you're most
> likely to get the best results:
> Aptana.com | Axway

Thank you -- it is good to see a positive contribution from you

15

Yeah, you're right. I really wasn't trying to be inflammatory, and
possibly mailing you off list would have been the best approach. To
get it off on the constructive track, and for the archives, can you
post what you did to get things working?

···

On 7/5/07, David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net> wrote:

So lets drasw a close to this and hopefully future dialogues will be
constructive.