RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ – Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2002-9-20)
This FAQ contains information for those who want to:
- learn more about Ruby, and want to
- post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
- provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.
This FAQ will be posted monthly.
Note that this is not the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at the
main Ruby site (www.ruby-lang.org).
TABLE OF CONTENTS
1 About Ruby
1.1 What is Ruby?
1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
2 About comp.lang.ruby.
2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?
3 Anything else?
1 About Ruby
1.1 What is Ruby?
Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
"industrial strength" development language.
Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, Clu, and Lisp. Ruby combines
these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies
the principles of least effort and least surprise to a
substantially greater extent than most comparable languages --
i.e. you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more
likely to give you what you expected to get. Ruby is thus a
relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain
language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated.
In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
iterators, plus proper meta-classes. Ruby has a true
mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
and simplifies writing extensions. In summary, Ruby provides a
very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
do.
You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
Ruby.
Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
language.
1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
Ruby's home web site:
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en (Ruby English language home page.)
Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and lots
of other interesting information.
Ruby's other major on-line documentation and links site:
http://www.rubycentral.com
Ruby FAQ:
http://www.rubycentral.com/faq/
Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):
http://www.ruby-lang.org/~slagell/ruby/
Ruby Reference Manual:
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/doc.html
Ruby classes, modules, and methods reference:
http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/
English language Ruby books (recent publication order):
Making Use of Ruby
by Suresh Mahadevan
Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)
Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
by Mark Slagell
Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)
Ruby Developer's Guide
by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)
The Ruby Way
by Hal Fulton
Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)
Ruby In A Nutshell
by Yukihiro Matsumoto
O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)
Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
Internet version: http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/
Errata: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata.html
Forthcoming English language Ruby books (author alpha order):
The Ruby Developer's Handbook
Robert Calco, Rich Kilmer, Dana Moore
Sams Publishing, ISBN: ??? (2002)
CANCELED, MARCH 2002 (for reasons unknown):
The Ruby Programming Language
by Yukihiro "Matz" Matsumoto and Keiju Ishitsuka
Addison Wesley Professional; ISBN: 020171096X (June, 2002)
German language Ruby books (author alpha order):
Programmieren mit Ruby
by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al.
dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)
Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch für den pragmatischen
Programmierer.
Translation of the Thomas/Hunt book (Programming Ruby,
aka the Pickaxe Book)
Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 382731965X (2002)
Forthcoming German language Ruby books (author alpha order):
Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und
ausführliche Einstieg.
by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen
ISBN: 3826672429
Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
(which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):
http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml
(Enter comp.lang.ruby in the "forum" entry field.)
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml
Local Ruby users and groups in your area:
http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups
2 About comp.lang.ruby.
2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby
comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000.
(Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was
responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
Here is the official charter:
CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby
The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
Ruby programming language and related issues.
Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
to, the following subjects:
- Bug reports
- Announcements of software written with Ruby
- Examples of Ruby code
- Suggestions for Ruby developers
- Requests for help from new Ruby programmers
The newsgroup is not moderated. Binaries are prohibited
(except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
for announcements of new Ruby-related products).
END CHARTER.
2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
(You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.)
(1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful. We
want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
cater to fire breathing wizards. :-)
(2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
all relevant information.
(a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or
when perusing archives):
- PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
*BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
as is relevant.
- Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
web-based service that does.
- Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
use attachments.
(b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
newsgroup. :-) When appropriate, include:
- The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
- The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
- The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
- The actual error messages.
- An example (preferably simple) that produces the
problem.
(c) If reporting a bug, please copy (cc:) your post to:
mailto:ruby-bugs@ruby-lang.org
This will enter your report into the Ruby bug database.
You can browse the database at:
http://www.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/ruby-bugs
(3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
who should be interested will read your post and so that people
who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it.
*Usefully* describe the contents of your post:
This is OK:
"How can I do x with y on z?"
"Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
"Bug: doing x with module y crashed z."
This is *NOT* OK:
"Please help!!!"
"Newbie question"
"Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"
(4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
FAQ and other documentation, use deja.com to search past
comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.
2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his
suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on
the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.
2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway
that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
(This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not
perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes
messages are dropped or duplicated.
The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
made before the creation of the gateway.
Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the
responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He
does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT
report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from
his server.
2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?
Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]
The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
matter was put to a vote in early 2002.
The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can
now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header.
You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
ruby-talk.org URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.org/12345 will refer
to message 12345.
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Anything else?
If you are new to Ruby (or haven’t previously taken the Ruby User
Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
The survey is at:http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.htmlThis FAQ was produced by Conrad Schneiker (schneiker@jump.net).
It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
I’m interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
for new comp.lang.ruby readers.In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
programming (among other kinds) fun. We hope you will help us
keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy.
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