RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ – Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2002-9-20)
This FAQ contains information for those who want to:
- learn more about Ruby, and want to
- post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
- provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.
This FAQ will be posted monthly.
Note that this is not the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at the
main Ruby site (www.ruby-lang.org).
TABLE OF CONTENTS
1 About Ruby 1.1 What is Ruby? 1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby? 2 About comp.lang.ruby. 2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby. 2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby. 2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster. 2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate? 2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers? 3 Anything else?
1 About Ruby
1.1 What is Ruby?
Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed, Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical "industrial strength" development language. Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl, Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, Clu, and Lisp. Ruby combines these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies the principles of least effort and least surprise to a substantially greater extent than most comparable languages -- i.e. you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more likely to give you what you expected to get. Ruby is thus a relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated. In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads, singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and iterators, plus proper meta-classes. Ruby has a true mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable and simplifies writing extensions. In summary, Ruby provides a very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to do. You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in Ruby. Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming language.
1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
Ruby's home web site: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en (Ruby English language home page.) Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and lots of other interesting information. Ruby's other major on-line documentation and links site: http://www.rubycentral.com Ruby FAQ: http://www.rubycentral.com/faq/ Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial): http://www.ruby-lang.org/~slagell/ruby/ Ruby Reference Manual: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/doc.html Ruby classes, modules, and methods reference: http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/ English language Ruby books (recent publication order): Making Use of Ruby
by Suresh Mahadevan
Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)
Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days by Mark Slagell Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002) Ruby Developer's Guide by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002) The Ruby Way by Hal Fulton Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001) Ruby In A Nutshell by Yukihiro Matsumoto O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001) Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000) Internet version: http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/ Errata: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata.html Forthcoming English language Ruby books (author alpha order): The Ruby Developer's Handbook Robert Calco, Rich Kilmer, Dana Moore Sams Publishing, ISBN: ??? (2002) CANCELED, MARCH 2002 (for reasons unknown): The Ruby Programming Language by Yukihiro "Matz" Matsumoto and Keiju Ishitsuka Addison Wesley Professional; ISBN: 020171096X (June, 2002) German language Ruby books (author alpha order): Programmieren mit Ruby by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al. dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002) Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch für den pragmatischen Programmierer. Translation of the Thomas/Hunt book (Programming Ruby, aka the Pickaxe Book) Addison-Wesley, ISBN: 382731965X (2002) Forthcoming German language Ruby books (author alpha order): Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und ausführliche Einstieg. by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen ISBN: 3826672429 Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list (which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000): http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml (Enter comp.lang.ruby in the "forum" entry field.) http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml Local Ruby users and groups in your area: http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups
2 About comp.lang.ruby.
2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby
comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000. (Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.) Here is the official charter: CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the Ruby programming language and related issues. Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited to, the following subjects: - Bug reports - Announcements of software written with Ruby - Examples of Ruby code - Suggestions for Ruby developers - Requests for help from new Ruby programmers The newsgroup is not moderated. Binaries are prohibited (except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except for announcements of new Ruby-related products). END CHARTER.
2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
(You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.) (1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful. We want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as cater to fire breathing wizards. :-) (2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep your content brief and to the point, but also try to include all relevant information. (a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or when perusing archives): - PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts *BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much as is relevant. - Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a web-based service that does. - Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't use attachments. (b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends newsgroup. :-) When appropriate, include: - The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v") - The compiler name and version used to build Ruby. - The OS type and level. ("uname -a") - The actual error messages. - An example (preferably simple) that produces the problem. (c) If reporting a bug, please copy (cc:) your post to: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org This will enter your report into the Ruby bug database. You can browse the database at: http://www.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/ruby-bugs (3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people who should be interested will read your post and so that people who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it. *Usefully* describe the contents of your post: This is OK: "How can I do x with y on z?" "Problem: did x, expected y, got z." "Bug: doing x with module y crashed z." This is *NOT* OK: "Please help!!!" "Newbie question" "Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong" (4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby FAQ and other documentation, use deja.com to search past comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.
2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.
2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa. (This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes messages are dropped or duplicated. The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were made before the creation of the gateway. Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from his server.
2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?
Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999] The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the matter was put to a vote in early 2002. The news header still refers to this number, should anyone wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header. You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the ruby-talk.org URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.org/12345 will refer to message 12345.
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