Hello,
I have about 5 years of work experience in programming websites, and
would like to learn Ruby. I would like to learn Ruby first, and then
will eventually go on to learning Rails.
Which book would you recommend on buying & reading?
Thank you.
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Kamil Chmielewski wrote:
Hello,
I have about 5 years of work experience in programming websites, and
would like to learn Ruby. I would like to learn Ruby first, and then
will eventually go on to learning Rails.Which book would you recommend on buying & reading?
Thank you.
In addition, my work experience is primarily in Java, and JSP, with the
Spring framework
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Kamil Chmielewski wrote:
Hello,
I have about 5 years of work experience in programming websites, and
would like to learn Ruby. I would like to learn Ruby first, and then
will eventually go on to learning Rails.Which book would you recommend on buying & reading?
Thank you.
The canonical Ruby book is _Programming_Ruby_ by Dave Thomas. It's now nearing its 3rd edition. For Ruby and Rails, _Ruby_For_Rails_ by David A. Black.
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I've been looking at this book:
It seems to do a pretty good job. A good way to learn the language is
to participate in the site: http://rubyquiz.com/
Joe
On Jan 4, 2008 6:29 PM, Kamil Chmielewski <kamilski81@gmail.com> wrote:
Kamil Chmielewski wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have about 5 years of work experience in programming websites, and
> would like to learn Ruby. I would like to learn Ruby first, and then
> will eventually go on to learning Rails.
>
> Which book would you recommend on buying & reading?
>
> Thank you.In addition, my work experience is primarily in Java, and JSP, with the
Spring framework--
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I have about 5 years of work experience in programming websites, and
would like to learn Ruby. I would like to learn Ruby first, and then
will eventually go on to learning Rails.Which book would you recommend on buying & reading?
coming from a similar background, i really enjoyed "the ruby way"
I would recommend "The Ruby Way" as well. I think it will suit you
better than "Programming Ruby".
On Jan 5, 1:02 am, Evan Haveman <evanhave...@gmail.com> wrote:
[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]
>> I have about 5 years of work experience in programming websites, and
>> would like to learn Ruby. I would like to learn Ruby first, and then
>> will eventually go on to learning Rails.>> Which book would you recommend on buying & reading?
coming from a similar background, i really enjoyed "the ruby way"
http://www.amazon.com/Ruby-Way-Second-Addison-Wesley-Professional/dp/
0672328844/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199491338&sr=8-1
I have a dozen or so Ruby books, although I am still trying to learn the
language.
Programming Ruby and The Ruby Way are among the one I use the most. Lately,
however, I am making use of *Teach Yourself* *Ruby in 21 Days. *This book
gives you exercises at the end of each chapter.
I make extensive use of the forum by posting my questions and monitoring
others Q&A.
On Jan 4, 2008 7:20 PM, Bjørn Arild Mæland <bjorn.maeland@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 5, 1:02am, Evan Haveman <evanhave...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]
>
> >> I have about 5 years of work experience in programming websites, and
> >> would like to learn Ruby. I would like to learn Ruby first, and then
> >> will eventually go on to learning Rails.
>
> >> Which book would you recommend on buying & reading?
>
> coming from a similar background, i really enjoyed "the ruby way"
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Ruby-Way-Second-Addison-Wesley-Professional/dp/
> 0672328844/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199491338&sr=8-1I would recommend "The Ruby Way" as well. I think it will suit you
better than "Programming Ruby".
Bjørn Arild Mæland wrote:
I would recommend "The Ruby Way" as well.
I have the first edition of "The Ruby Way". Does anyone know if there are substantial differences between the 1st and 2nd editions? If so, in what areas?
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
Jari Williamsson wrote:
Bjørn Arild Mæland wrote:
I would recommend "The Ruby Way" as well.
I have the first edition of "The Ruby Way". Does anyone know if there are substantial differences between the 1st and 2nd editions? If so, in what areas?
It's bigger.
Also, it has a kick-ass (albeit increasingly outdated) section on Web frameworks .
Seriously, it really does cover much more material, and it's a real improvement over the 1st ed.
Go get it!
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Jari Williamsson wrote:
Bjørn Arild Mæland wrote:
I would recommend "The Ruby Way" as well.
I have the first edition of "The Ruby Way". Does anyone know if there are substantial differences between the 1st and 2nd editions? If so, in what areas?
Well, the 2nd edition has a huge section about RMagick. That right there is worth the price
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RMagick 2: http://rmagick.rubyforge.org/rmagick2.html
Victor Reyes wrote:
I have a dozen or so Ruby books, although I am still trying to learn the
language.
Programming Ruby and The Ruby Way are among the one I use the most. Lately,
however, I am making use of *Teach Yourself* *Ruby in 21 Days. *This book
gives you exercises at the end of each chapter.
I make extensive use of the forum by posting my questions and monitoring
others Q&A.[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]
I have about 5 years of work experience in programming websites, and
would like to learn Ruby. I would like to learn Ruby first, and then
will eventually go on to learning Rails.
Which book would you recommend on buying & reading?coming from a similar background, i really enjoyed "the ruby way"
http://www.amazon.com/Ruby-Way-Second-Addison-Wesley-Professional/dp/
0672328844/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199491338&sr=8-1I would recommend "The Ruby Way" as well. I think it will suit you
better than "Programming Ruby".
As far as I'm concerned, for an *experienced* programmer who wants to
learn Ruby, there is only one book -- the Pickaxe aka _Programming
Ruby_. The others are all good/great in their own way, but the Pickaxe
is the definitive reference manual (in English, anyhow) on the language.
Going on to Rails is another thing entirely. _Agile Web Development with
Rails_ is probably the best place to start, but for Rails, I personally
think you're *much* better off with live classroom training than trying
to pick it up from a book or bunch of books.
On Jan 4, 2008 7:20 PM, Bjørn Arild Mæland <bjorn.maeland@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 5, 1:02am, Evan Haveman <evanhave...@gmail.com> wrote:
Victor Reyes wrote:
however, I am making use of *Teach Yourself* *Ruby in 21 Days. *This
book
gives you exercises at the end of each chapter.
I make extensive use of the forum by posting my questions and monitoring
others Q&A.
Hi Victor,
This is Regarding:- " Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days "
I do not see this book now at any Book Store. Neither is the PDF version
available.
Do you have the pdf version or text version.
Thanks
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The Ruby Way certainly covers a lot of material, and is a formidable tome.
On the other hand, and I've hesitated about saying this for some time
because I respect Hal's accomplishment and the effort, it's riddled
with lots of mostly small errors. There's a small official list of
errata, but it hasn't been kept up. I'd sent Hal quite a few and he
said that he had gotten quite a few more and intended to update the
errata, but doesn't seem to have gotten around to it. The new book
"The Rails Way" in the same series, seems to have fewer errors and
Obie is keeping a fairly active errata list using lighthouse for use
in preparing new printings.
I found that the Rails Way was good to read once, as a way to come up
to speed on the breadth of the Ruby scene at least as it was in early
2007 when the 2nd edition was published, and I've no doubt that it's
still valuable in that way. But I've found resources like following
and contributing to mailing lists like this, google, blogs, and
reading code to be the most valuable ways to keep up with Ruby.
It's very hard for printed books to keep up with technologies like
Ruby these days, they tend to be obsolete almost as soon as they are
published.
On Jan 5, 2008 1:31 PM, Tim Hunter <TimHunter@nc.rr.com> wrote:
Jari Williamsson wrote:
> Bjørn Arild Mæland wrote:
>
>> I would recommend "The Ruby Way" as well.
>
> I have the first edition of "The Ruby Way". Does anyone know if there
> are substantial differences between the 1st and 2nd editions? If so, in
> what areas?
>Well, the 2nd edition has a huge section about RMagick. That right there
is worth the price
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My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
Softmind,
The book is available at Amazon. Here is a link:
I have the printed version only. I never had the PDF version nor I know if
they have one for sell or download.
I find the book to have a very good intro to Ruby, as it covers many
subjects and it test you at the end of each chapter. It also provides the
answers.
Regards,
Victor
On Jan 7, 2008 1:42 AM, Softmind Technology <softmindtechnology@gmail.com> wrote:
Victor Reyes wrote:
> however, I am making use of *Teach Yourself* *Ruby in 21 Days. *This
> book
> gives you exercises at the end of each chapter.
> I make extensive use of the forum by posting my questions and monitoring
> others Q&A.Hi Victor,
This is Regarding:- " Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days "
I do not see this book now at any Book Store. Neither is the PDF version
available.Do you have the pdf version or text version.
Thanks
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Personally I found "The Ruby Way" the most useful book, "Ruby For
Rails" the best explanation of metaprogramming and Ruby OOP, and
"Programming Ruby" I mostly use for its reference section (sorry) and
detail on things like Gems and IRB.
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Giles Bowkett wrote:
Personally I found "The Ruby Way" the most useful book, "Ruby For
Rails" the best explanation of metaprogramming and Ruby OOP, and
"Programming Ruby" I mostly use for its reference section (sorry) and
detail on things like Gems and IRB.
I have also just gotten _Design Patterns In Ruby_. I picked it up
because it covers an area of practice where I have little experience,
and does it in Ruby. I think if you're an old OOP hand, you can probably
live without it. The chapters on DSLs and metaprogramming are excellent,
though I think you're right about _Ruby for Rails_ being the best
explanations.
Giles Bowkett wrote:
"Programming Ruby" I mostly use for its reference section (sorry) and
detail on things like Gems and IRB.
Same here... yet I'd really like a printed version of the complete API
and library. I know I have it electronically but I can browse a book
away from the computer ... and yeah, I guess I am that geeky, to browse
a programming reference book for "fun"
Overall I'd have to say the "best" book for a seasoned programmer has
yet to appear... one is sort of stuck gleaning the best bits from
several sources unfortunately.
BTW, are there any good books or other sources that deal with creating C
extensions?
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> Personally I found "The Ruby Way" the most useful book, "Ruby For
> Rails" the best explanation of metaprogramming and Ruby OOP, and
> "Programming Ruby" I mostly use for its reference section (sorry) and
> detail on things like Gems and IRB.I have also just gotten _Design Patterns In Ruby_. I picked it up
because it covers an area of practice where I have little experience,
and does it in Ruby. I think if you're an old OOP hand, you can probably
live without it. The chapters on DSLs and metaprogramming are excellent,
though I think you're right about _Ruby for Rails_ being the best
explanations.
I'm a book hoe. I may pick that up just for the DSL stuff. I need some
good stuff on DSLs, this thingy I'm working on is mega stalled due to
lack of DSL fu.
I got a new book which I hesitate to recommend YET because I haven't
worked through it all and I want to cherish my secret weapon, but for
the hell of it, it's "Practical Ruby Projects," and if it rocks even
just half as much as it looks like, it's quite a book. It's all
projects, obviously - build this, build that - and the projects
include a Lisp interpreter and a live MIDI code generator (or possibly
semi-live - hopefully I'll be able to tell you for sure later today).
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Tim Ferrell wrote:
BTW, are there any good books or other sources that deal with creating C extensions?
The best source seems to be Chapter 21 of the Pickaxe, combined with reading the Ruby source code.
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The Pickaxe is a vital reference book for anybody doing anything with Ruby.
After you read it and do some things, you can keep going back to it. (until you're an expert on Ruby, but even then...)
The tutorial/example section could use some clean up and I wouldn't expect anyone to rely on that alone, as it doesn't go deep into anything but the basics fo Ruby.
Beginning Ruby more than makes up for this, as a great tutorial of Ruby in many different use-scenarios.
The Ruby Cookbook can't be denied either.
As for Rails, AWDWR's second half should be had as a reference, but not until Rails 2 version is out. The tutorial portion is a mess but informative if you've first read other books on Rails.
I would recommend this as a reference, but to get your hands dirty and get a good clear picture of the core day-to-day Rails life, get the SitePoint publishing book on Rails. It's quick, and clear and concise.
Rails Solutions is another good one for the quick and dirty.
Honestly, I haven't met a Ruby book I didn't like yet.