Any Arachno IDE users out there? Do you mind sharing your opinion of the
product and how much you have used it? Private email is fine too.
Thanks!
I've been programming in Ruby for 3 years, and using ArachnoRuby for
about 6 months. I do contract programming, mostly in C++, but of
course I use Ruby as much as I can. Before ArachnoRuby, I was
severely limited in how much I could use Ruby professionally. I was
trying to use Ruby scripts to make changes to a code base of 5,000,000
(I'm quite serious!) lines of C++ code. At times the scripts would
run for about 30 minutes and then crash. If I was running outside the
debugger, I'd just get a stack trace and find myself back at the
command prompt. I tried running the script in the Ruby debugger, but
that slowed the script down too much. (I didn't benchmark it, but it
_felt_ like a factor of 10 slowdown.) I couldn't wait 5 hours to get
back to the point of failure.
I tried tracking down the problem outside the debugger: putting in
lots of print statements, etc. At times I'd spend literally an hour
or two tracking down the problem this way. Invariably, it would only
take a minute to fix the problem once I'd determined what the problem
was. Since I get paid by the hour, I simply couldn't justify billing
my client for spending a few hours tracking down a problem which would
have only taken a few minutes to fix if I'd had a better development
environment.
So, very reluctantly, I severely cut back on using Ruby for paid work.
I limited myself to small scripts that I knew I could easily debug if
necessary.
Then I discovered ArachnoRuby. It uses a different approach to
debugging Ruby, which is much faster than the usual way. This meant I
could once again write any Ruby script I wanted, and be confident of
being able to debug it.
For me, using ArachnoRuby has literally meant money in the bank. I
have been able to do paid work with ArachnoRuby which I would not have
been able to do without it.
I like a lot of things about ArachnoRuby besides the debugger. But
this post is already getting long, so let me just mention one more:
I've just started doing Web development with Ruby. ArachnoRuby
installs its own private copy of Apache, which it automatically starts
and stops when running a Ruby script. While running Apache you can
easily debug Ruby code: set breakpoints, single step, etc. It may be
possible to set something like this up without using ArachnoRuby, but
ArachnoRuby provides it with no additional setup.
(Of course, I have no financial or other relationship with
Scriptolutions (the company that makes ArachnoRuby) other than being a
_very_ happy user/beta tester.)
Wayne Vucenic
No Bugs Software
"Ruby and C++ Contract Programming in Silicon Valley"
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:58:29 +0900, itsme213 <itsme213@hotmail.com> wrote:
Any Arachno IDE users out there? Do you mind sharing your opinion of the
product and how much you have used it? Private email is fine too.Thanks!
does arachnoruby have code folding?
that's one of the reasons i like sctinilla based editors with ruby
support.
freeride seems to work ok until i try firing up the debugger it
crashes. i discovored freeride when it was at v0.6 and all versions up
to the latest have crashed on me...
for some reason it takes forever to even launch...longer than komodo
(which is really a beast but i like the interface and code folding)
http://home.cogeco.ca/~tsummerfelt1
telnet://ventedspleen.dyndns.org
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 03:14:19 +0900, you wrote:
I've been programming in Ruby for 3 years, and using ArachnoRuby for
about 6 months.
tony summerfelt wrote:
>I've been programming in Ruby for 3 years, and using ArachnoRuby for
>about 6 months.does arachnoruby have code folding?
that's one of the reasons i like sctinilla based editors with ruby
support.freeride seems to work ok until i try firing up the debugger it
crashes. i discovored freeride when it was at v0.6 and all versions up
to the latest have crashed on me...
What platform are you running on? If windows, are you running it with your
own version of Ruby or are you using the one shipped with FreeRIDE?
for some reason it takes forever to even launch...longer than komodo
(which is really a beast but i like the interface and code folding)
Thanks. The startup time is because its written entirely in Ruby (except
for the Scintilla-based editor).
Curt
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 03:14:19 +0900, you wrote:
Hello tony,
does arachnoruby have code folding?
Not yet but i'm working on it.
for some reason it takes forever to even launch...longer than komodo
(which is really a beast but i like the interface and code folding)
Can't verify this on my 2,8 GHz PIV
Komodo (2.3): 8 sec
ArachnoRuby (0.3): 5 sec
FreeRide (0.8): 3 sec
So there is maybe something wrong with your system.
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Lothar Scholz wrote:
> for some reason it takes forever to even launch...longer than komodo
> (which is really a beast but i like the interface and code folding)Can't verify this on my 2,8 GHz PIV
Komodo (2.3): 8 sec
ArachnoRuby (0.3): 5 sec
FreeRide (0.8): 3 secSo there is maybe something wrong with your system.
Thanks for the stats, I hadn't actually tried it!
Curt
What platform are you running on? If windows, are you running it with your
own version of Ruby or are you using the one shipped with FreeRIDE?
that's a darn good question. i have two different ruby's installed.
one that at the time was the latest stable build (binary), one of the
snapshot builds i compiled myself.
i'm not sure what version was running because i just clicked on the
runw.bat file...
Thanks. The startup time is because its written entirely in Ruby (except
for the Scintilla-based editor).
startup time doesn't bother me...it was the debugger crash that was a
drag...
http://home.cogeco.ca/~tsummerfelt1
telnet://ventedspleen.dyndns.org
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:24:38 +0900, you wrote:
Is Arachno open-source?
T.
P.S. Maybe this was already brought up, but besides FreeRide there is Moderian
too. http://www.mondrian-ide.com/ (FYI).
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On Sunday 14 November 2004 05:12 pm, Curt Hibbs wrote:
> Can't verify this on my 2,8 GHz PIV
>
> Komodo (2.3): 8 sec
> ArachnoRuby (0.3): 5 sec
> FreeRide (0.8): 3 sec
trans. (T. Onoma) schrieb:
P.S. Maybe this was already brought up, but besides FreeRide there is Moderian too. http://www.mondrian-ide.com/ (FYI).
Mondrain is probably the nicest (FreeRide never really worked on Windows for me)
Ruby in Ruby IDE (maybe the nicest Ruby IDE period) and supposed be turned in
to a Open source project soon - way to goo:-))
/Christoph
Christoph wrote:
trans. (T. Onoma) schrieb:
>P.S. Maybe this was already brought up, but besides FreeRide
there is Moderian
>too. http://www.mondrian-ide.com/ (FYI).
>
>
Mondrain is probably the nicest (FreeRide never really worked on Windows
for me)
Ruby in Ruby IDE (maybe the nicest Ruby IDE period) and supposed be
turned in
to a Open source project soon - way to goo:-))
I'm not familiar with Ruby in Ruby, where can I find it?
Curt
Hi Christoph,
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Christoph wrote:
Mondrain is probably the nicest (FreeRide never really worked on Windows for me) Ruby in Ruby IDE (maybe the nicest Ruby IDE period)
After your strong endorsement, I have downloaded Mondrain and will be playing with it for a while, but ....
and supposed be turned in to a Open source project soon - way to goo:-))
it appeared to me that it is already an Open source project. Somebody (Devros?) on its forum remarked about reading the clean code behind it. Am I missing something (as usual ;-)) ?
Just curious ...
Thanks for the link, anyway.
-- Shashank
Curt Hibbs schrieb:
I'm not familiar with Ruby in Ruby, where can I find it?
I guess word order is important - this should have been:
A Ruby IDE (written) in Ruby :-))
/Christoph
Curt Hibbs ha scritto:
Mondrain is probably the nicest (FreeRide never really worked on Windows for me)
Ruby in Ruby IDE (maybe the nicest Ruby IDE period) and supposed be turned in
to a Open source project soon - way to goo:-))I'm not familiar with Ruby in Ruby, where can I find it?
I guess he meant 'mondrian is the nicest ruby in ruby ide'
Shashank Date schrieb:
it appeared to me that it is already an Open source project. Somebody (Devros?) on its forum remarked about reading the clean code behind it. Am I missing something (as usual ;-)) ?
Just curious ...
No Mondrain is de-facto already an open source project (if you read the forums) but
on the front page you can read about an impending license change and the exact license
hasn't been stated yet (I believe).
/Christoph
Well when it is I'd like to see a Gem or RPA package.
T.
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On Sunday 14 November 2004 06:33 pm, gabriele renzi wrote:
Curt Hibbs ha scritto:
>>Mondrain is probably the nicest (FreeRide never really worked on Windows
>>for me)
>>Ruby in Ruby IDE (maybe the nicest Ruby IDE period) and supposed be
>>turned in
>>to a Open source project soon - way to goo:-))
>
> I'm not familiar with Ruby in Ruby, where can I find it?I guess he meant 'mondrian is the nicest ruby in ruby ide'
No Mondrain is de-facto already an open source
project (if you read the forums) but
on the front page you can read about an impending
license change and the exact license
hasn't been stated yet (I believe).
Oh, I see. I saw that and took it to mean that the
license will be more libreal (you see what you want to
see 
But you are right, it'll probably become more
restrictive given that it is slated to be a commercial
IDE.
/Christoph
-- shanko
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