[ANN] RubyGems 0.8.4

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= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4

Hello and Happy New Year! We've now surpassed 10,000 downloads of
RubyGems and are starting to see a real rhythm of new gems being
published. Thanks to the efforts of many dedicated Rubyists, 2005
will be remembered as the year everything took shape in the world of
ruby package distribution.

We have just released RubyGems 0.8.4. 0.8.4 is a small release, but it
fixes some fairly major installation issues (thanks Ryan Davis) and
addresses some speed issues with requires (thanks Eric Hodel, Gavin
Sinclair, and Jim Weirich).

== What is RubyGems?

RubyGems is a package management system for Ruby applications and
libraries. RubyGems one command download makes installing Ruby
software fun and enjoyable again. (Ok, not really.)

Many gems are available for download from the RubyForge site. Browse
the list of gems with a "gem list --remote" command and download what
you need with a simple "gem install <name-of-gem>". RubyGems takes
care of the details of installing, not only the gem you requested, but
also any gems needed by the software you selected.

So now you are asking ...

== How can I get all this great stuff?

Well, here's how ...

To download and install:

1. DOWNLOAD FROM: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=126
2. UNPACK INTO A DIRECTORY AND CD THERE
3. INSTALL WITH: ruby setup.rb all (you may need admin/root privilege)

... or, if you have an existing RubyGem installation ....

  $ gem install rubygems-update (again, might need to be admin/root)
  $ update_rubygems (... here too)

I bet you are wondering...

== So What's Changed in this Release?

* Rubygems 0.8.3's installer was broken unless you already had an
older version of RubyGems installed. That's fixed.

* Change in the way Gem::Specification internally deals with lazy
attributes and defaults, bringing (with some loadpath_manager changes)
a fairly significant increase in speed.

* Support for lower-cased Gem file names (for you, Paul Duncan :slight_smile:

* Erik Veenstra's patch for making Gem versions sortable.

Keep those gems coming!

- Chad Fowler (for the RubyGems team)

http://chadfowler.com
http://rubycentral.org
http://rubygarden.org
http://rubygems.rubyforge.org (over 50,000 gems served!)

2

What state is the graphical gem installer/browser in?

-Rich

···

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:36:13 +0900, Chad Fowler <chadfowler@gmail.com> wrote:

= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4

Hello and Happy New Year! We've now surpassed 10,000 downloads of
RubyGems and are starting to see a real rhythm of new gems being
published. Thanks to the efforts of many dedicated Rubyists, 2005
will be remembered as the year everything took shape in the world of
ruby package distribution.

We have just released RubyGems 0.8.4. 0.8.4 is a small release, but it
fixes some fairly major installation issues (thanks Ryan Davis) and
addresses some speed issues with requires (thanks Eric Hodel, Gavin
Sinclair, and Jim Weirich).

== What is RubyGems?

RubyGems is a package management system for Ruby applications and
libraries. RubyGems one command download makes installing Ruby
software fun and enjoyable again. (Ok, not really.)

Many gems are available for download from the RubyForge site. Browse
the list of gems with a "gem list --remote" command and download what
you need with a simple "gem install <name-of-gem>". RubyGems takes
care of the details of installing, not only the gem you requested, but
also any gems needed by the software you selected.

So now you are asking ...

== How can I get all this great stuff?

Well, here's how ...

To download and install:

1. DOWNLOAD FROM: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=126
2. UNPACK INTO A DIRECTORY AND CD THERE
3. INSTALL WITH: ruby setup.rb all (you may need admin/root privilege)

... or, if you have an existing RubyGem installation ....

  $ gem install rubygems-update (again, might need to be admin/root)
  $ update_rubygems (... here too)

I bet you are wondering...

== So What's Changed in this Release?

* Rubygems 0.8.3's installer was broken unless you already had an
older version of RubyGems installed. That's fixed.

* Change in the way Gem::Specification internally deals with lazy
attributes and defaults, bringing (with some loadpath_manager changes)
a fairly significant increase in speed.

* Support for lower-cased Gem file names (for you, Paul Duncan :slight_smile:

* Erik Veenstra's patch for making Gem versions sortable.

Keep those gems coming!

- Chad Fowler (for the RubyGems team)

http://chadfowler.com
http://rubycentral.org
http://rubygarden.org
http://rubygems.rubyforge.org (over 50,000 gems served!)

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Chad Fowler wrote:

= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4

Hello and Happy New Year! We've now surpassed 10,000 downloads of
RubyGems and are starting to see a real rhythm of new gems being
published. Thanks to the efforts of many dedicated Rubyists, 2005
will be remembered as the year everything took shape in the world of
ruby package distribution.

We have just released RubyGems 0.8.4. 0.8.4 is a small release, but it
fixes some fairly major installation issues (thanks Ryan Davis) and
addresses some speed issues with requires (thanks Eric Hodel, Gavin
Sinclair, and Jim Weirich).

Many thanks!!!

Out of curiosity, how much of RubyGems is leveraging existing existing work in projects such as Perl's CPAN, Gentoo's Portage, FreeBSD's ports, NetBSD's pkgsrc, Debian's apt-get, etc...?

Maybe some of the remaining work can leverage work already completed/tested in other projects. Particularly more complex issues related to caching, etc.

4

I used gems to install rails on win2K, but not able to do so behind a
proxy server. Even using the -p option does not help.

Only now I realise that by adding the 'HTTP_PROXY' environment variable
in windows, the problem is solved! Just thought of sharing this tip
here, as my previous google attempt did not seem to find this...

5

= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4

Hello and Happy New Year! We've now surpassed 10,000 downloads of
RubyGems and are starting to see a real rhythm of new gems being
published. Thanks to the efforts of many dedicated Rubyists, 2005
will be remembered as the year everything took shape in the world of
ruby package distribution.

[snipped]

* Support for lower-cased Gem file names (for you, Paul Duncan :slight_smile:

Thanks! :smiley:

···

* Chad Fowler (chadfowler@gmail.com) wrote:

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Chad Fowler wrote:

= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4

Hello and Happy New Year!

Hello and thank you!

I just asked for an update of rails and got a new RedCloth
too? (I believe Britt raised this concern earlier?)

$ sudo gem update rails
Upgrading installed gems...
Attempting remote upgrade of RedCloth
Attempting remote installation of 'RedCloth'
Successfully installed RedCloth, version 3.0.0
Installing RDoc documentation for RedCloth-3.0.0...
WARNING: Generating RDoc on .gem that may not have RDoc.
Attempting remote upgrade of actionpack
Attempting remote installation of 'actionpack'
....

Regards,

···

--
Bil Kleb, Hampton, Virginia
http://fun3d.larc.nasa.gov

7

Chad Fowler wrote:

= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4

Hello and Happy New Year! We've now surpassed 10,000 downloads of
RubyGems and are starting to see a real rhythm of new gems being
published. Thanks to the efforts of many dedicated Rubyists, 2005
will be remembered as the year everything took shape in the world of
ruby package distribution.

We have just released RubyGems 0.8.4. 0.8.4 is a small release, but it
fixes some fairly major installation issues (thanks Ryan Davis) and
addresses some speed issues with requires (thanks Eric Hodel, Gavin
Sinclair, and Jim Weirich).

== What is RubyGems?

RubyGems is a package management system for Ruby applications and
libraries. RubyGems one command download makes installing Ruby
software fun and enjoyable again. (Ok, not really.)

Many gems are available for download from the RubyForge site. Browse
the list of gems with a "gem list --remote" command and download what
you need with a simple "gem install <name-of-gem>". RubyGems takes
care of the details of installing, not only the gem you requested, but
also any gems needed by the software you selected.

So now you are asking ...

== How can I get all this great stuff?

Well, here's how ...

To download and install:

1. DOWNLOAD FROM: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=126
2. UNPACK INTO A DIRECTORY AND CD THERE
3. INSTALL WITH: ruby setup.rb all (you may need admin/root privilege)

.. or, if you have an existing RubyGem installation ....

  $ gem install rubygems-update (again, might need to be admin/root)
  $ update_rubygems (... here too)

I bet you are wondering...

== So What's Changed in this Release?

* Rubygems 0.8.3's installer was broken unless you already had an
older version of RubyGems installed. That's fixed.

* Change in the way Gem::Specification internally deals with lazy
attributes and defaults, bringing (with some loadpath_manager changes)
a fairly significant increase in speed.

* Support for lower-cased Gem file names (for you, Paul Duncan :slight_smile:

* Erik Veenstra's patch for making Gem versions sortable.

Keep those gems coming!

- Chad Fowler (for the RubyGems team)

http://chadfowler.com
http://rubycentral.org http://rubygarden.org http://rubygems.rubyforge.org (over 50,000 gems served!)

I was wondering if you can add some kind of progress bar to indicate that the update is going on. Otherwise, there is no way to know that it works. Thanks

8

I'm trying to install Rails using RubyGems but something is wrong:

undefined method `find_module_named' for nil:NilClass <<

error stops the installation, and Rails isn't properly installed.

Szymon Drejewicz
OS: Linux FC2, Ruby 1.8.1, Gem 0.8.4

···

---------------

[root rubygems-0.8.4]# gem install rails
Attempting local installation of 'rails'
Local gem file not found: rails*.gem
Attempting remote installation of 'rails'
Install required dependency rake? [Yn]
Install required dependency activerecord? [Yn]
Install required dependency actionpack? [Yn]
Install required dependency actionmailer? [Yn]
Successfully installed rails, version 0.9.3
Installing RDoc documentation for rails-0.9.3...
WARNING: Generating RDoc on .gem that may not have RDoc.

lib/binding_of_caller.rb:4:25: Couldn't find Continuation. Assuming it's a
module

lib/binding_of_caller.rb:36:21: Couldn't find Binding. Assuming it's a
module

lib/rails_generator.rb:34:46: Skipping require of dynamic string:
"#{path}/#{name}_generator.rb"
Installing RDoc documentation for rake-0.4.15...
Installing RDoc documentation for activerecord-1.4.0...

lib/active_record/support/binding_of_caller.rb:4:25: Couldn't find
Continuation. Assuming it's a module

lib/active_record/support/binding_of_caller.rb:36:21: Couldn't find Binding.
Assuming it's a module
Installing RDoc documentation for actionpack-1.2.0...

lib/action_controller/scaffolding.rb:87:37: Skipping require of dynamic
string: "#{model_id.id2name}"

lib/action_controller/support/binding_of_caller.rb:4:25: Couldn't find
Continuation. Assuming it's a module

lib/action_controller/support/binding_of_caller.rb:36:21: Couldn't find
Binding. Assuming it's a module
ERROR: While executing gem ... (NoMethodError)
    undefined method `find_module_named' for nil:NilClass

9

I just installed RubyGems 0.8.4, but now "requre 'RUDL'" raises this:

irb(main):001:0> require 'RUDL'
NameError: undefined method `print_centered' for class `RUDL::SFont'
        from (eval):113
        from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:18:in
`require'
        from (irb):1

This seems to have only affected RUDL. It used to work fine before
installing RubyGems. What's this about?

ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [i386-mswin32]

Bill

···

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:36:13 +0900, Chad Fowler <chadfowler@gmail.com> wrote:

= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4

Hello and Happy New Year! We've now surpassed 10,000 downloads of
RubyGems and are starting to see a real rhythm of new gems being
published. Thanks to the efforts of many dedicated Rubyists, 2005
will be remembered as the year everything took shape in the world of
ruby package distribution.

We have just released RubyGems 0.8.4. 0.8.4 is a small release, but it
fixes some fairly major installation issues (thanks Ryan Davis) and
addresses some speed issues with requires (thanks Eric Hodel, Gavin
Sinclair, and Jim Weirich).

== What is RubyGems?

RubyGems is a package management system for Ruby applications and
libraries. RubyGems one command download makes installing Ruby
software fun and enjoyable again. (Ok, not really.)

Many gems are available for download from the RubyForge site. Browse
the list of gems with a "gem list --remote" command and download what
you need with a simple "gem install <name-of-gem>". RubyGems takes
care of the details of installing, not only the gem you requested, but
also any gems needed by the software you selected.

So now you are asking ...

== How can I get all this great stuff?

Well, here's how ...

To download and install:

1. DOWNLOAD FROM: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=126
2. UNPACK INTO A DIRECTORY AND CD THERE
3. INSTALL WITH: ruby setup.rb all (you may need admin/root privilege)

... or, if you have an existing RubyGem installation ....

  $ gem install rubygems-update (again, might need to be admin/root)
  $ update_rubygems (... here too)

I bet you are wondering...

== So What's Changed in this Release?

* Rubygems 0.8.3's installer was broken unless you already had an
older version of RubyGems installed. That's fixed.

* Change in the way Gem::Specification internally deals with lazy
attributes and defaults, bringing (with some loadpath_manager changes)
a fairly significant increase in speed.

* Support for lower-cased Gem file names (for you, Paul Duncan :slight_smile:

* Erik Veenstra's patch for making Gem versions sortable.

Keep those gems coming!

- Chad Fowler (for the RubyGems team)

http://chadfowler.com
http://rubycentral.org
http://rubygarden.org
http://rubygems.rubyforge.org (over 50,000 gems served!)

--
$stdout.sync = true
"Just another Ruby hacker.".each_byte do |b|
  ('a'..'z').step do|c|print c+"\b";sleep 0.007 end;print b.chr
end; print "\n"

10

Richard Lyman ha scritto:

What state is the graphical gem installer/browser in?

-Rich

.... and, there is a chance to speed up remote gem search/install by local caching and download of diffed stuff ?

11

I'm not the developer of either of the ones that are in development,
so I can't say for sure, but I've seen both and they are both very
near feature complete. End of the year madness has probably gotten in
the way :slight_smile:

Chad

···

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:30:56 +0900, Richard Lyman <lymans@gmail.com> wrote:

What state is the graphical gem installer/browser in?

-Rich

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:36:13 +0900, Chad Fowler <chadfowler@gmail.com> wrote:
> = Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4
>
> Hello and Happy New Year! We've now surpassed 10,000 downloads of
> RubyGems and are starting to see a real rhythm of new gems being
> published. Thanks to the efforts of many dedicated Rubyists, 2005
> will be remembered as the year everything took shape in the world of
> ruby package distribution.
>
> We have just released RubyGems 0.8.4. 0.8.4 is a small release, but it
> fixes some fairly major installation issues (thanks Ryan Davis) and
> addresses some speed issues with requires (thanks Eric Hodel, Gavin
> Sinclair, and Jim Weirich).
>
> == What is RubyGems?
>
> RubyGems is a package management system for Ruby applications and
> libraries. RubyGems one command download makes installing Ruby
> software fun and enjoyable again. (Ok, not really.)
>
> Many gems are available for download from the RubyForge site. Browse
> the list of gems with a "gem list --remote" command and download what
> you need with a simple "gem install <name-of-gem>". RubyGems takes
> care of the details of installing, not only the gem you requested, but
> also any gems needed by the software you selected.
>
> So now you are asking ...
>
> == How can I get all this great stuff?
>
> Well, here's how ...
>
> To download and install:
>
> 1. DOWNLOAD FROM: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=126
> 2. UNPACK INTO A DIRECTORY AND CD THERE
> 3. INSTALL WITH: ruby setup.rb all (you may need admin/root privilege)
>
> ... or, if you have an existing RubyGem installation ....
>
> $ gem install rubygems-update (again, might need to be admin/root)
> $ update_rubygems (... here too)
>
> I bet you are wondering...
>
> == So What's Changed in this Release?
>
> * Rubygems 0.8.3's installer was broken unless you already had an
> older version of RubyGems installed. That's fixed.
>
> * Change in the way Gem::Specification internally deals with lazy
> attributes and defaults, bringing (with some loadpath_manager changes)
> a fairly significant increase in speed.
>
> * Support for lower-cased Gem file names (for you, Paul Duncan :slight_smile:
>
> * Erik Veenstra's patch for making Gem versions sortable.
>
> Keep those gems coming!
>
> - Chad Fowler (for the RubyGems team)
>
> http://chadfowler.com
> http://rubycentral.org
> http://rubygarden.org
> http://rubygems.rubyforge.org (over 50,000 gems served!)
>
>

--

Chad Fowler
http://chadfowler.com

http://rubygems.rubyforge.org (over 50,000 gems served!)

12

Here's another tip that worked for me even though I am on a severely
locked down Windows 2000 box where I cannot set any Windows
environment variables such as HTTP_PROXY. This line may be entered at
a command prompt:

"c:\ruby\bin\ruby.exe" "c:\ruby\bin\gem" install rails -p http://proxy:80

My ruby version using the One Click Installer
ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [i386-mswin32]

Hope this helps someone. Peace
Craig

···

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:46:34 +0900, firestar <theebh@gmail.com> wrote:

I used gems to install rails on win2K, but not able to do so behind a
proxy server. Even using the -p option does not help.

Only now I realise that by adding the 'HTTP_PROXY' environment variable
in windows, the problem is solved! Just thought of sharing this tip
here, as my previous google attempt did not seem to find this...

13

firestar said:

I used gems to install rails on win2K, but not able to do so behind a
proxy server. Even using the -p option does not help.

Only now I realise that by adding the 'HTTP_PROXY' environment variable
in windows, the problem is solved! Just thought of sharing this tip
here, as my previous google attempt did not seem to find this...

I just tried both the environment variable and the -p option under windows
XP and both variations were fine. Can anyone confirm a problem on Windows
2000 with the -p proxy option?

Thanks.

···

--
-- Jim Weirich jim@weirichhouse.org http://onestepback.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,
not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)

14

Hello,

I'm a czech Ruby fan, now looking for a new job.. It's not possible to
find any ruby project here. Does anyone know about something like "Ruby
job announcement"?

I think more people are in the same situation - want to programm in Ruby
but aren't able to get a correspondent job. I think it's possible to
work over countries nowadays. Eight work hours & one company in one
bilding is the past.

Jan Molic
http://www.1984.cz

15

I believe this is because 'gem update' updates all gems on your
machine. You can't give it a parameter and have it just update that
gem. Instead, you could do 'gem install rails', perhaps...?

- Jamis

···

On 08:11 Wed 05 Jan , Bil Kleb wrote:

Chad Fowler wrote:
>= Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4
>
>Hello and Happy New Year!

Hello and thank you!

I just asked for an update of rails and got a new RedCloth
too? (I believe Britt raised this concern earlier?)

$ sudo gem update rails
Upgrading installed gems...
Attempting remote upgrade of RedCloth
Attempting remote installation of 'RedCloth'
Successfully installed RedCloth, version 3.0.0
Installing RDoc documentation for RedCloth-3.0.0...
WARNING: Generating RDoc on .gem that may not have RDoc.
Attempting remote upgrade of actionpack
Attempting remote installation of 'actionpack'

--
Jamis Buck
jamis_buck@byu.edu
http://www.jamisbuck.org/jamis
------------------------------
"I am Victor of Borge. You will be assimil-nine-ed."

16

Szymon Drejewicz said:

I'm trying to install Rails using RubyGems but something is wrong:

undefined method `find_module_named' for nil:NilClass <<

error stops the installation, and Rails isn't properly installed.

I actually saw this while helping a friend install Rails last night. It
seems to be happening during the RDoc generation phase, but I'm not sure
if the cause lies with RubyGems or RDOc.

With the exception of the RDoc web pages, I think that Rails is properly
installed. Just to make sure, you can retry it with the --no-rdoc option
to workaround the problem for now.

···

--
-- Jim Weirich jim@weirichhouse.org http://onestepback.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,
not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)

17

Someone else is having this problem too (see message "RUBY 1.8.2 and RUDL")

Any news on this? I can only require RUDL if I use require__ (i.e. by
bypassing RubyGems' require method).

Bill

···

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:42:18 -0500, Bill Atkins <batkins57@gmail.com> wrote:

I just installed RubyGems 0.8.4, but now "requre 'RUDL'" raises this:

irb(main):001:0> require 'RUDL'
NameError: undefined method `print_centered' for class `RUDL::SFont'
        from (eval):113
        from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:18:in
`require'
        from (irb):1

This seems to have only affected RUDL. It used to work fine before
installing RubyGems. What's this about?

ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [i386-mswin32]

Bill

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:36:13 +0900, Chad Fowler <chadfowler@gmail.com> wrote:
> = Announce: RubyGems Release 0.8.4
>
> Hello and Happy New Year! We've now surpassed 10,000 downloads of
> RubyGems and are starting to see a real rhythm of new gems being
> published. Thanks to the efforts of many dedicated Rubyists, 2005
> will be remembered as the year everything took shape in the world of
> ruby package distribution.
>
> We have just released RubyGems 0.8.4. 0.8.4 is a small release, but it
> fixes some fairly major installation issues (thanks Ryan Davis) and
> addresses some speed issues with requires (thanks Eric Hodel, Gavin
> Sinclair, and Jim Weirich).
>
> == What is RubyGems?
>
> RubyGems is a package management system for Ruby applications and
> libraries. RubyGems one command download makes installing Ruby
> software fun and enjoyable again. (Ok, not really.)
>
> Many gems are available for download from the RubyForge site. Browse
> the list of gems with a "gem list --remote" command and download what
> you need with a simple "gem install <name-of-gem>". RubyGems takes
> care of the details of installing, not only the gem you requested, but
> also any gems needed by the software you selected.
>
> So now you are asking ...
>
> == How can I get all this great stuff?
>
> Well, here's how ...
>
> To download and install:
>
> 1. DOWNLOAD FROM: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=126
> 2. UNPACK INTO A DIRECTORY AND CD THERE
> 3. INSTALL WITH: ruby setup.rb all (you may need admin/root privilege)
>
> ... or, if you have an existing RubyGem installation ....
>
> $ gem install rubygems-update (again, might need to be admin/root)
> $ update_rubygems (... here too)
>
> I bet you are wondering...
>
> == So What's Changed in this Release?
>
> * Rubygems 0.8.3's installer was broken unless you already had an
> older version of RubyGems installed. That's fixed.
>
> * Change in the way Gem::Specification internally deals with lazy
> attributes and defaults, bringing (with some loadpath_manager changes)
> a fairly significant increase in speed.
>
> * Support for lower-cased Gem file names (for you, Paul Duncan :slight_smile:
>
> * Erik Veenstra's patch for making Gem versions sortable.
>
> Keep those gems coming!
>
> - Chad Fowler (for the RubyGems team)
>
> http://chadfowler.com
> http://rubycentral.org
> http://rubygarden.org
> http://rubygems.rubyforge.org (over 50,000 gems served!)
>
>

--
$stdout.sync = true
"Just another Ruby hacker.".each_byte do |b|
  ('a'..'z').step do|c|print c+"\b";sleep 0.007 end;print b.chr
end; print "\n"

--
$stdout.sync = true
"Just another Ruby hacker.".each_byte do |b|
  ('a'..'z').step do|c|print c+"\b";sleep 0.007 end;print b.chr
end; print "\n"

18

This is definitely a necessity. We've been discussing various
solutions and won't get to 1.0 without a fix. With more and more gems
available, we definitely need to fix this.

···

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:51:39 +0900, gabriele renzi <rff_rff@remove-yahoo.it> wrote:

Richard Lyman ha scritto:
> What state is the graphical gem installer/browser in?
>
> -Rich
>
>

.... and, there is a chance to speed up remote gem search/install by
local caching and download of diffed stuff ?

--

Chad Fowler
http://chadfowler.com

http://rubygems.rubyforge.org (over 50,000 gems served!)

19

Hello MiG,

work over countries nowadays. Eight work hours & one company in one
bilding is the past.

Yes we are more and more going back 100 years in time and start
working again 16 hours a day. Not that good.

And back to your question: Most companies normally hire on skills and not on a
special language. Learn many languages (at least 5) find a job and
then convince your boss to use the language you are most productive
and that fits well enough for your task.

···

--
Best regards, emailto: scholz at scriptolutions dot com
Lothar Scholz http://www.ruby-ide.com
CTO Scriptolutions Ruby, PHP, Python IDE 's

20

Hello,

I'm a czech Ruby fan, now looking for a new job.. It's not possible to
find any ruby project here. Does anyone know about something like "Ruby
job announcement"?

Given that Ruby is nowhere near as mainstream as Java or Perl or even
Python, it is very rare to see a project that specifically would use
Ruby. Often, what I find myself doing is convincing potential clients
of the merits of Ruby for a particular project, and well, most of them
are smart enough to remember that they hired our team for our
technical expertise, and that they shouldn't be meddling too much in
technical matters like choice of implementation language.

It would be better to be able dictate the language of an upcoming
project yourself, rather than be committed to some language that is
suboptimal for the task. Even Ruby is not the right language for doing
everything.

I think more people are in the same situation - want to programm in Ruby
but aren't able to get a correspondent job. I think it's possible to
work over countries nowadays. Eight work hours & one company in one
bilding is the past.

As are walls that go all the way to the ceiling. :wink:

Most jobs for programmers are on a per-project basis these days, and
the only reason that companies that do IT services even still exist is
to provide some framework. Most programmers would not have the ability
to market themselves and their skills out of a cardboard box, and
would have little contact with the brick and mortar businesses that
might need their services.

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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 05:59:26 +0900, MiG <mig@1984.cz> wrote: