[ANN] RubyForge.org

ruby-talk
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All,

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org

This runs GForge (http://www.gforge.org), and provides
sourceforge/savannah-like capabilities for Ruby projects
(cvs/web/files/mail/bugs/etc). I already moved my jabber4r library
(http://jabber4r.rubyforge.org) over and have a little surprise project
started there also (rendezvous for Ruby).

The current RubyForge admin is my InfoEther cohort, Tom Copeland, who
also has committer rights to GForge…so we will be well supported. I
cannot say that we can host everyone’s projects, but we will do so for
as many as we can. The system is UPS’ed and backups are automatic both
onsite and offsite…and yes…it is in my basement (if PragDave can
run RubyGarden, I can run this :slight_smile:

Tom is also working on a Ruby script to export Sourceforge project data
and import it into RubyForge, so for those that have pre-existing
projects we can help in moving them if you want to.

If you have questions, please email me directly, or post a
question/comment through the support project
(http://rubyforge.org/projects/support/) on RubyForge.

I’d like to offer a special thanks to Tom Copeland and Dave Craine for
setting up this machine/service:

 class String; def thanks!; puts "Thanks #{self}!"; end; end
 %w{ Tom Dave }.each { | dude | dude.thanks! }

Best,

Rich Kilmer

PS. Oh, and please no "Hey, GForge is written substantially in PHP!"
jokes. If you want to start the RubyForge project to rewrite GForge in
Ruby, please do so :wink:

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I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

http://www.rubyforge.org

That’s really cool!
I’m very glad to see something like that happening. It does give Ruby
something special other than what CPAN or RAA are.

You know what might be cool? (and this is just a thought) if RubyForge
also were to repreent something like RAA. That its, give a good interface
for people to find and access projects.

PS. Oh, and please no “Hey, GForge is written substantially in PHP!”
jokes. If you want to start the RubyForge project to rewrite GForge in
Ruby, please do so :wink:

Could have been worse. It could have been Perl!!

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All,

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org

Wow, what a pleasant surprise! And to think I was going to create a
project on SourceForge; I’m glad I procastinated!

You are going to host my project, aren’t you? :wink:

Gavin

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Richard Kilmer wrote:

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org

This is over-mega-hyper-cool ! If I find time, I will migrate my project
(vapor) over there. But there is one thing that I’d be glad if I could move
it to rubyforge, too: my Subversion repository.

Subversion is really superior to CVS and if Rubyforge would support it (in
addtition to CVS repositories), that would be great.

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This is very exciting news.

I’ve just registered as a user, and applied a project and there were a few
points on the application that weren’t clear

  1. the second box is labeled Project Public Description but the description
    says that it isn’t a public description. I think it should be labeled Project
    Purpose Description.

2)In the PPD box you have to enter what resources you plan on using but I
didn’t see anywhere that listed what resources are available. When filling in
the application I assumed that you provided the same facilities as
SourceForge do.

  1. The Ruby license isn’t listed as an option. Is this because it isn’t an OSI
    approved license?

In all it is a very well put together site. Well done

Best Regards

Mark Sparshatt

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On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 3:38 am, Richard Kilmer wrote:

All,

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org
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Hi,

Richard Kilmer wrote:

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

http://www.rubyforge.org

This is an excellent news! I hope RubyForge won’t be as commercial as
SourceForge.

Long life to RubyForge!

PS. Oh, and please no “Hey, GForge is written substantially in PHP!”
jokes. If you want to start the RubyForge project to rewrite GForge in
Ruby, please do so :wink:

It would be an interesting project anyway :wink:

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–
Laurent

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Edit Your Profile:
Specifying your Ruby skills would be nice, thus some suggestions:

crossroad-skills:

  • embed ruby into c/c++
  • ruby extension writing
  • ruby-core hacking

web-skills:

  • eruby
  • sessions
  • cookies
  • ssl

gui-skills:

  • gnome
  • fox
  • wx
  • qt

data-storage-skills:

  • yaml
  • rexml
  • dbi
  • madelain
  • druby

testing-skills:

  • test::unit
  • rubyunit

Is there other important areas of ruby-skills ?

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–
Simon Strandgaard

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I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community
server
for Ruby projects here:

http://www.rubyforge.org

That’s really cool!
I’m very glad to see something like that happening. It does give Ruby
something special other than what CPAN or RAA are.

You know what might be cool? (and this is just a thought) if RubyForge
also were to repreent something like RAA. That its, give a good
interface
for people to find and access projects.

We could add links to important Ruby sites (ruby-lang, RubyGarden, RAA
etc). RAA is a project metadata repository, and RubyForge is a project
repository…two distinct things…but we will want to work closely
with RAA (perhaps updating RAA automagically when you do a release on
RubyForge for example).

PS. Oh, and please no “Hey, GForge is written substantially in PHP!”
jokes. If you want to start the RubyForge project to rewrite GForge
in
Ruby, please do so :wink:

Could have been worse. It could have been Perl!!

Me thinks there is perl in there…and python…ug…but hey, its a
tool!

-rich

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On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Daniel Carrera wrote:

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Is it written in Ruby :wink:

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On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 12:41 AM, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

You are going to host my project, aren’t you? :wink:

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I think this is a great idea, Rich!

BTW, did you get my email the other day?

But Gavin’s note got me thinking: If there were
any downside to RubyForge, it would be this:
There will be less use of SourceForge and
Savannah for Ruby projects, which might be bad
for Ruby advocacy. People might look on these
well-known sites to see how many Ruby-related
projects there are, and conclude that Ruby is
not really used much.

Therefore I’d like to see RubyForge promoted
heavily as it gets larger… ultimately we want
even non-Rubyists to know of its existence, IMO.

Hal

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From: “Gavin Sinclair” gsinclair@soyabean.com.au
To: “ruby-talk ML” ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ANN] RubyForge.org

All,

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org

Wow, what a pleasant surprise! And to think I was going to create a
project on SourceForge; I’m glad I procastinated!

You are going to host my project, aren’t you? :wink:

–
Hal Fulton
hal9000@hypermetrics.com

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I’ll add that the site documentation, which a new user is encouaged to
visit, is non-existent (page not found).

Gavin

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On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 3:38 am, Richard Kilmer wrote:

All,

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community
server for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org

This is very exciting news.

I’ve just registered as a user, and applied a project and there were a
few points on the application that weren’t clear
[…]

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Please submit these types of suggestions/comments to the
http://www.rubyforge.org/projects/support project so we can track them.
Ruby’s license is now available.

Best,

Rich

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On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 06:03 AM, mark wrote:

On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 3:38 am, Richard Kilmer wrote:

All,

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community
server
for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org

This is very exciting news.

I’ve just registered as a user, and applied a project and there were a
few
points on the application that weren’t clear

  1. the second box is labeled Project Public Description but the
    description
    says that it isn’t a public description. I think it should be labeled
    Project
    Purpose Description.

2)In the PPD box you have to enter what resources you plan on using
but I
didn’t see anywhere that listed what resources are available. When
filling in
the application I assumed that you provided the same facilities as
SourceForge do.

  1. The Ruby license isn’t listed as an option. Is this because it
    isn’t an OSI
    approved license?
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Subversion is really nice… agree… nice2have feature :slight_smile:

Curious… does the webserver have mod_ruby installed ?

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:43:41 +0200, Oliver Bolzer wrote:

Richard Kilmer wrote:

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org

Subversion is really superior to CVS and if Rubyforge would support it (in
addtition to CVS repositories), that would be great.

–
Simon Strandgaard

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repository…two distinct things…but we will want to work closely
with RAA (perhaps updating RAA automagically when you do a release on
RubyForge for example).

If you want people to use rubyforge, then I think you should really
offer that.

Me thinks there is perl in there…and python…ug…but hey, its a
tool!

How hard was gforge to set up?

Will you be offering eruby for use on the projects websites?

cheers

Paul

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Hmmmm. Actually… no.

I want a project to cover Vim configuration files for Ruby editing. In
particular, the following files:

indent/ruby.vim
ftplugin/ruby.vim
syntax/ruby.vim [if the current maintainer agrees]

This is obviously a small project, written in a language other than Ruby,
but I see a necessity to have it available by CVS, so bleeding edge
features can be tested and contributed before being released.

Gavin

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On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 12:41 AM, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

You are going to host my project, aren’t you? :wink:

Is it written in Ruby :wink:

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Richard Kilmer wrote:

You are going to host my project, aren’t you? :wink:

Is it written in Ruby :wink:

Congratulations on getting this set up! I know a of a couple candidates for
RubyForge - FreeRIDE and wxRuby… I’m pretty sure they are written in Ruby
:wink:

Curt

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On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 12:41 AM, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

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I’ve noticed that the snippet library doesn’t contain an entry for
Ruby! (although Perl and Python are represented).

Seriously, great job Rich. I’ll be looking to move a project or two
there in the near future.

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On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 06:34, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

I’ll add that the site documentation, which a new user is encouaged to
visit, is non-existent (page not found).

–
– Jim Weirich jweirich@one.net http://onestepback.org

“Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,
not tried it.” – Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)

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 http://www.rubyforge.org

But Gavin’s note got me thinking: If there were
any downside to RubyForge, it would be this:
There will be less use of SourceForge and
Savannah for Ruby projects, which might be bad
for Ruby advocacy.

Yeah, but that’s a double-edged sword, - this way I might be able
to actually use CVS during office hours in the US…

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If a 6600 used paper tape instead of core memory, it would use up tape
at about 30 miles/second.
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Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns

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 http://www.rubyforge.org

[snip]

But Gavin’s note got me thinking: If there were
any downside to RubyForge, it would be this:
There will be less use of SourceForge and
Savannah for Ruby projects, which might be bad
for Ruby advocacy. People might look on these
well-known sites to see how many Ruby-related
projects there are, and conclude that Ruby is
not really used much.

Therefore I’d like to see RubyForge promoted
heavily as it gets larger… ultimately we want
even non-Rubyists to know of its existence, IMO.

Hi,

First post.

I run an apps site on the O’Reillly Network, OSDir.com. It’s open
source app biased/focused, but I for one would really like to start
sticking Ruby in as many places as possible to bring attention to it.
As you can imagine there are a lot of “P” people who visit the O’Reilly
Network sites and folks interested in learning more about the "P"s.

I’ve just started getting into Ruby, I’d never wanted to commit to
learning a language before (yes I’m aware of the irony) before
attending the Ruby sessions at OSCON this year. I think Ruby is really
onto something.

To the point, if there’s any ‘promotion’ to be done I’d love to start
running with some of it and am open to suggestions on how to do so.

I also think GForge is awesome despite it’s ‘challenging’ installation.
'Grats on setting it up for your own needs.

Steve Mallett
http://open5ource.net

“… doctrine is the expression of enlightenment; it does not produce
it.”
-Christmas Humphreys, Teach Yourself Zen

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I’ve been following subversion development for two years, and we finally
took it out for a more complete test drive a couple of months ago, using it
for some small projects. We’re crying out for some of its features, and
the code looks very good (clean and documented). I’ll agree that
subversion will someday be much superior, but we didn’t find it so yet.

It was a bear to compile and configure (couldn’t get all the servers to
work on each of our platforms, but settled on the subversion server which
seemed to have the fewest problems). Also, with a single tiny repository
and 3 people using it lightly, we got several database corruptions in a
single week which needed to be repaired. One of these wasn’t even
repairable with the recover command.

And we had root privileges to fix them, which not everyone will have.

It also has some annoying bugs when dealing with multiple/nested
repositories.

We had to conclude it wasn’t ready yet, and believe me our requirements
can’t be nearly as strict as something would be on Rubyforge where people
from all over the world would be using it. We’ve been running our ruby
apps on CVS snapshots of ruby and SWIG–we’re not averse to risk and the
cutting edge.

But having subversion corrupt its db all the time was too much even for us.

Do others have differing experiences with it? I’d love to hear we’ve just
done something really dumb because we could really use subversion here…

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On Jul 24, Simon Strandgaard wrote:

Richard Kilmer wrote:

I want to announce that we (InfoEther) have stood up a community server
for Ruby projects here:

 http://www.rubyforge.org

Subversion is really superior to CVS and if Rubyforge would support it (in
addtition to CVS repositories), that would be great.

Subversion is really nice… agree… nice2have feature :slight_smile:

–
Brett