Hi all,
the attendees of the European Ruby Conference 2007 have almost universally agreed, that the next year the conference should take place in Prague, Czech Republic (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=prague+czech+republic&z=4).
While no substantial opinion has been voiced in contrary :), the plans here in Prague have already been set in motion.
The local Ruby/Rails is in contact with the organizers of the last EURUKO and is currently discussing these issues:
* Possible venue. Most probably some university space in the city center
* WiFi access is a must 
* Term. The best term could be May/June, but the conference should definitely not clash with RailsConf (29. 5.) or other important event.
We would definitely like to hear your opinions & suggestions regarding anything -- the venue, the term, evenning program suggestions, etc.
Until there is some website with wiki & forum, please post here (if allowed & appropriate) or on the Facebook discussion page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17995395190).
Looking forward to see you in Prague,
Karel Minařík
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Karel Minar(ík wrote:
Hi all,
the attendees of the European Ruby Conference 2007 have almost universally agreed, that the next year the conference should take place in Prague, Czech Republic (Google Maps).
I'm sorry to hear that. I was hoping for another stint in Germany or Austria.
Oh well. Maybe 2009.
While no substantial opinion has been voiced in contrary :), the plans here in Prague have already been set in motion.
Add me to the voices in the contrary. 
The local Ruby/Rails is in contact with the organizers of the last EURUKO and is currently discussing these issues:
* Possible venue. Most probably some university space in the city center
* WiFi access is a must
* Term. The best term could be May/June, but the conference should definitely not clash with RailsConf (29. 5.) or other important event.
BTW, at RubyConf 2007, Michael Neumann asked matz about attending EuRuKo.
Basically, matz seemed up for it, if it wasn't scheduled too close to another travel arrangement (e.g, RubyConf 2008).
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Karel Minařík wrote:
We would definitely like to hear your opinions & suggestions regarding anything -- the venue, the term, evenning program suggestions, etc.
Prague sounds great, especially since my boss's office is there I can make it a dual-purpose trip, and bring some NetBeans Ruby guys along too. I've only been to Prague once before, but it was in the winter. A May/June trip would be nice.
- Charlie
Hi,
Karel Minařík wrote:
* Term. The best term could be May/June, but the conference should
definitely not clash with RailsConf (29. 5.) or other important event.
RubyKaigi 2008, the Japanese Ruby Conference will be held in 20
(Fri), 21 (Sat), 22 (Sun), June, 2008.
Regards,
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Hi,
Karel Minařík wrote:
* Term. The best term could be May/June, but the conference should
definitely not clash with RailsConf (29. 5.) or other important event.
RubyKaigi 2008, the Japanese Ruby Conference will be held in 20
(Fri), 21 (Sat), 22 (Sun), June, 2008.
I believe there's a plan to try to get Ruby implementers to the Kaigi as well, so these dates should definitely be excluded.
- Charlie
Prague is a great city and I'm glad you've changed the date so that it is no
longer immediately after the RubyConf in America, but I'd vote for April so
that it neither overlaps with RailsConf (May) or RubyKaigi (June). I
understand that this year it leaves you less time to prepare but it seems
April or July would be best to minimize conflicts.
marcel
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Karel Minařík wrote:
> * Term. The best term could be May/June, but the conference should
> definitely not clash with RailsConf (29. 5.) or other important event.
RubyKaigi 2008, the Japanese Ruby Conference will be held in 20
(Fri), 21 (Sat), 22 (Sun), June, 2008.
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SASADA Koichi wrote:
Hi,
Karel MinaÅ™Ãk wrote:
* Term. The best term could be May/June, but the conference should
definitely not clash with RailsConf (29. 5.) or other important event.
RubyKaigi 2008, the Japanese Ruby Conference will be held in 20
(Fri), 21 (Sat), 22 (Sun), June, 2008.
I believe there's a plan to try to get Ruby implementers to the Kaigi as well, so these dates should definitely be excluded.
But *please* hold it when the weather in that area (including south Germany ) is nice. That's the only way I could swing it to attend while on a trip to visit family (train from Munich to Prague looks quite doable ...)
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Hi All,
Prague is a great city and I'm glad you've changed the date so that it is no
longer immediately after the RubyConf in America, but I'd vote for April so
that it neither overlaps with RailsConf (May) or RubyKaigi (June). I
understand that this year it leaves you less time to prepare but it seems
April or July would be best to minimize conflicts.
I am glad to see the discussion has started! From the weather perspective, I think April and July are tied. April doesn't usually qualify as 'nice weather' imho - at least the possibility of rain and random showers is much higher and the weather might change frequently (cold/pleasant spring). On the other hand, July can be way too hot. I would say nice April weather would be better than that of a typical July, but ugly April weather is worse.
If anyone has knowledge of other big Ruby/Rails conferences in either July or April, please speak up. There were 2 weeks between the USA RubyConf and EURUKO, and I know that this was two close for several people (including Matz). So we should leave about a month between EURUKO and anything else if possible.
As Karel announced, there is a Facebook group called 'EURUKOBACKWEB' (Facebook Public Group | Facebook) - If you are coming (or thinking about it) please join to keep in touch, stay up to date, join the discussion etc.
Any ideas, suggestions etc. are welcome!
Cheers,
Peter
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Hi all,
thank you for your responses!! (@James Britt: Yes, Munich is just a couple of hours away, so you should be fine 
1/ Term -- as Peter writes, April is quite unstable month regarding the weather, but one can never be sure Given that end of May is RailsConf, June is RubyKaigi and September probably RailsConf Europe and November RubyConf, there seem to be such possibilites:
* End of April: 29. 3. -- 30. 3. (...may catch "unstable" weather though @Marcel: Three months is plenty of time
* Beginning of May: 5. 5. -- 6. 5. (...if it isn't too close to RailsConf though)
* Around half of July (...but a lot of people may be on a vacation. But the venue could be easily to arrange -- university is obviously deserted in summer)
* Around half of September (...arranged in such way that overseas attendees can visit RailsConfEu as well. Same as above applies for the venue)
2/ Suggestions -- do you have any more suggestions for us to take into consideration, please? (Again, here or Facebook)
Thanks!
Karel
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* James Britt, 2007-11-26, 12:43:
That's the only way I could swing it to attend
while on a trip to visit family (train from Munich to Prague looks quite
doable ...)
You could also consider going by airplane. Tends to be cheaper if tickets are
ordered early. But please keep in mind that environmental costs are not taken
into account...
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
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Hi all,
1/ Term -- as Peter writes, April is quite unstable month regarding the weather, but one can never be sure Given that end of May is RailsConf, June is RubyKaigi and September probably RailsConf Europe and November RubyConf, there seem to be such possibilites:
* End of April: 29. 3. -- 30. 3. (...may catch "unstable" weather though @Marcel: Three months is plenty of time
Well, after talking to some guys it seems most of the people want April. However, I just got a mail from Charlie O. Nutter that he would like to come, but "while an April date for EURUKO 2008 would be great, it would be better in early April than late April. "
> * Beginning of May: 5. 5. -- 6. 5. (...if it isn't too close to > > > > RailsConf though)
If we are counting with the JRuby guys, May is out of question - they are presenting at JavaOne in early May. Also it might be too close to RailsConf as you said.
Of course I am not saying we should therefore ditch late April/May completely - while I'd really love to see the JRuby team there, I am sure that finding a time which suits everyone is at least NP-complete (or worse :-). I am just trying to throw as much input in as I can find, then let's see.
Cheers,
Peter
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Hi all,
thanks to Peter for getting the feedback!
So the term seems to narrow down to three possibilites:
1/ Very early April
2/ Early July
3/ Early September
It also depends on the availibility of the venue -- I think any of those terms is quite OK, the latter two being "statistically" better regarding the weather
The September term could be also arranged in such way, that visitors from overseas could attend EURUKO *and* RailsConf Europe -- are there people interested in this option? Should we take it into consideration?
Cheers,
Karel
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On 26.11.2007, at 12:42, Peter Szinek wrote:
Hi all,
1/ Term -- as Peter writes, April is quite unstable month regarding the weather, but one can never be sure Given that end of May is RailsConf, June is RubyKaigi and September probably RailsConf Europe and November RubyConf, there seem to be such possibilites:
* End of April: 29. 3. -- 30. 3. (...may catch "unstable" weather though @Marcel: Three months is plenty of time
Well, after talking to some guys it seems most of the people want April. However, I just got a mail from Charlie O. Nutter that he would like to come, but "while an April date for EURUKO 2008 would be great, it would be better in early April than late April. "
> * Beginning of May: 5. 5. -- 6. 5. (...if it isn't too close to > > > > RailsConf though)
If we are counting with the JRuby guys, May is out of question - they are presenting at JavaOne in early May. Also it might be too close to RailsConf as you said.
Of course I am not saying we should therefore ditch late April/May completely - while I'd really love to see the JRuby team there, I am sure that finding a time which suits everyone is at least NP-complete (or worse :-). I am just trying to throw as much input in as I can find, then let's see.
Cheers,
Peter
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I think it would be pretty cool to have it in September and thus allow
people who are traveling to Europe from all over the globe to hit two
conferences in one trip. On the other hand, it could be a bit much to do
two conferences in one trip - is it possible to overdose on ruby hob
nobbing (or Czech beer, for that matter)?
RailsConf Europe is going to be in Berlin again next year, right? I
think travel between the two cities is easy and fast whether by train or
plane, although I wasn't able to find a route between Prague & Berlin on
skyeurope.com.
Thanks for all the work you're doing on getting the next Euruko
organized.
Jacqui
PS Personally, I vote for doing it in September as I wouldn't be able to
make it back to Prague, unfortunately, as soon as April of 08.
Karel Minařík wrote:
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Hi all,
thanks to Peter for getting the feedback!
So the term seems to narrow down to three possibilites:
1/ Very early April
2/ Early July
3/ Early September
It also depends on the availibility of the venue -- I think any of
those terms is quite OK, the latter two being "statistically" better
regarding the weather
The September term could be also arranged in such way, that visitors
from overseas could attend EURUKO *and* RailsConf Europe -- are there
people interested in this option? Should we take it into consideration?
Cheers,
Karel
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