I have recently seen the italian version of "Agile Web Developement with Rails" in bookstores. It's italian title is "Sviluppare applicazioni Web con Rails" (unfortunately the "agile" part got lost).
This is as far as I know the first book in italian that talks about Ruby (well, not really "Ruby", but at least about something closely related, and probably someone who gets in touch with Rails will also learn Ruby).
Even if I do not really like Italian books (I just can't stand tranlation mistakes, poor editions -- compared with some US ones ), I decided to buy it.
I put aside my projudices and bought the italian edition since I think it is good to show editors that they can earn money even with "not mainstream technologies" (where in Italy mainstream means PHP>Java>.Net|MS in general, and recently "Linux" "CSS" and "MacOS" -- but no Cocoa, for example ).
We have a couple of books about Python (and one is very old, dating back to Python 2.1) and this one. Of course things like Haskell do not even exist.
In fact as many people began buying books on MacOS, more books got translated: I hope the very same thing can happen for Ruby or Python.
Unfortunately a lot of people in my country do not read english books. A technology that is not covered by some book in italian is quite often ignored: that is why I salute with joy this new book.
I have recently seen the italian version of "Agile Web Developement with
Rails" in bookstores. It's italian title is "Sviluppare applicazioni Web
con Rails" (unfortunately the "agile" part got lost).
This is as far as I know the first book in italian that talks about Ruby
(well, not really "Ruby", but at least about something closely related,
and probably someone who gets in touch with Rails will also learn Ruby).
I think Ruby's getting a lot of traction here in Italy... in Padova, a
few guys from the Java Users Group formed a Ruby Users Group:-)
Even if I do not really like Italian books (I just can't stand
tranlation mistakes, poor editions -- compared with some US ones ), I
decided to buy it.
Do you know who did the translation? Some of the guys at Hoepli do
pretty good work.
Unfortunately a lot of people in my country do not read english books. A
technology that is not covered by some book in italian is quite often
ignored: that is why I salute with joy this new book.
Yes, hopefully it will make Rails more 'boss friendly' here, although
that will make it less of a competitive advantage for those who 'get it'
I think Ruby's getting a lot of traction here in Italy... in Padova, a
few guys from the Java Users Group formed a Ruby Users Group:-)
And this is good. Python is not really widespread (even if our Alex
Martelli is one of the most known pythonists), but is growing. In my city
there are a couple of software houses that are using Python (and a couple
of friends *work* with it).
Here it is Java-PHP-VB. Sigh. But I'm happy some Javaists got interested
with ruby. How can I partecipate with this RUG? It's official? Is there a
mailing list?
I was thinking about doing kind of a ruby.it, but I told... it's better
someone else does it, I'm not a really experienced ruby programmer. Still
I'd like to partecipate.
Do you know who did the translation? Some of the guys at Hoepli do
pretty good work.
I own the book
Inside I read:
Traduzione:
Georges Piriou,
Marco Triplini
In fact there are also some modifications in respect with the english
version. Where appropriate there are "Translator notes" (Rails is really
"english" based)
Yes, hopefully it will make Rails more 'boss friendly' here, although
that will make it less of a competitive advantage for those who 'get it'
Yes. But until hostings won't offer ruby, I'm afraid will go on with PHP
(and that is bad).
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:13:47 +0100, David N. Welton wrote:
Anyone know of some other Italian websites in general or companies
(development firms, bookstores, etc) that either use Rails or offer it as a
service of some sort?
Kind regards,
Nathan.
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From: David N. Welton [mailto:davidw@dedasys.com]
Sent: March 12, 2006 4:19 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: [ANN] Agile Web Developement with Rails in Italian
Mc Osten wrote:
> I have recently seen the italian version of "Agile Web Developement
> with Rails" in bookstores. It's italian title is
"Sviluppare applicazioni Web
> con Rails" (unfortunately the "agile" part got lost).
> This is as far as I know the first book in italian that talks about
> Ruby (well, not really "Ruby", but at least about something closely
> related, and probably someone who gets in touch with Rails
will also learn Ruby).
I think Ruby's getting a lot of traction here in Italy... in
Padova, a few guys from the Java Users Group formed a Ruby
Users Group:-)
> Even if I do not really like Italian books (I just can't stand
> tranlation mistakes, poor editions -- compared with some US
ones ), I
> decided to buy it.
Do you know who did the translation? Some of the guys at
Hoepli do pretty good work.
> Unfortunately a lot of people in my country do not read
english books.
> A technology that is not covered by some book in italian is quite
> often
> ignored: that is why I salute with joy this new book.
Yes, hopefully it will make Rails more 'boss friendly' here,
although that will make it less of a competitive advantage
for those who 'get it'
I know this probably won't answer your question, but here's the page
for an italian RUG. There doesn't seem to be much content in their wiki
as yet, but it does seem active. Certainly someone here should know: http://ruby-it.org/
Here it is Java-PHP-VB. Sigh. But I'm happy some Javaists got interested
with ruby. How can I partecipate with this RUG? It's official? Is there a
mailing list?
Yes. But until hostings won't offer ruby, I'm afraid will go on with PHP
(and that is bad).
Searching for 'rails hosting' finds quite a few. If you don't mind that
little extra bit of latency, hosting in the states is a pretty good deal
because of the relatively weak dollar. I'll be honest in that I think
the service is, on the whole, better than in Italy too, but that's a
tough problem in any country[1].
Anyone know of some other Italian websites in general or companies
(development firms, bookstores, etc) that either use Rails or offer it as a
service of some sort?
Here it is Java-PHP-VB. Sigh. But I'm happy some Javaists got interested
with ruby. How can I partecipate with this RUG? It's official? Is there a
mailing list?
I was thinking about doing kind of a ruby.it, but I told... it's better
someone else does it, I'm not a really experienced ruby programmer. Still
I'd like to partecipate.
well, an italian ruby community[1] existed for a while (since 2003 IIRC)
and now there is a rails realted one[2]
BTW, if you're near Rome we're probably going to have the second "real life meeting" of rubyist around the Urbe this week (probably).
Anyone know of some other Italian websites in general or companies
(development firms, bookstores, etc) that either use Rails or offer it as a
service of some sort?
I'm not sure what you mean by "offer it as a service" but I can tell you there are quite a bit of companies working with rubyonrails, I could post a list of the ones I know but I think you can better found them by yourself via google
Well, I quite said something when I meant something else. That is to say..
I know there are some rails hosting (i've got one and it is really
excellent, but excellence costs).
I have not seen "cheap" or free hostings offering rails. For example Aruba
or Altervista (a couple of names quite known in Italy).
That was I meant. And if Ruby spreads, cheap hostings will support Rails
too, I hope.
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:34:32 +0100, David N. Welton wrote:
Searching for 'rails hosting' finds quite a few. If you don't mind that
little extra bit of latency, hosting in the states is a pretty good deal
because of the relatively weak dollar. I'll be honest in that I think
the service is, on the whole, better than in Italy too, but that's a
tough problem in any country[1].
anyway, can you post a rewiev? if is it worth buying it?
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anyway, can you post a rewiev? if is it worth buying it?
The Rails book? Definitively it's worth buying. Well, if you already have the english version you probably don't need the italian one too.
Still if you want to get a book on rails, you can try this one.
Since it's just a translation, you can read a review on the original one, and it applies to this book too.
I found it really interesting, even if some "new" rails evolutions (migrations) are not covered.
