If you were to instrument my physical responses and typing rate while
coding using Python and Test Driven Development, and compare them to
my responses using Ruby, you’d get close to assessing the subjective
reason I ain’t going back.
This paragraph intrigues me. Am I misreading, or are you not keen on TDD?
Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought he was saying
that Ruby was more compatible with TDD than
Python was.
Hal
----- Original Message -----
From: “Michael Campbell” michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com
To: “ruby-talk ML” ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: What’s TOTALLY COMPELLING about Ruby over Python?
If you were to instrument my physical responses and typing rate while
coding using Python and Test Driven Development, and compare them to
my responses using Ruby, you’d get close to assessing the subjective
reason I ain’t going back.This paragraph intrigues me. Am I misreading, or are you not keen on TDD?
–
Hal Fulton
hal9000@hypermetrics.com
“Michael Campbell” michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:LEEEIDNEKIDGNLMOEIJOOENICDAA.michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com…
If you were to instrument my physical responses and typing rate while
coding using Python and Test Driven Development, and compare them to
my responses using Ruby, you’d get close to assessing the subjective
reason I ain’t going back.This paragraph intrigues me. Am I misreading, or are you not keen on TDD?
You probably don’t realize how funny this question is. 
Dave
PS - You are misreading.
If you were to instrument my physical responses and typing rate while
coding using Python and Test Driven Development, and compare them to
my responses using Ruby, you’d get close to assessing the subjective
reason I ain’t going back.This paragraph intrigues me. Am I misreading, or are you not
keen on TDD?Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought he was saying
that Ruby was more compatible with TDD than
Python was.
Oh! That makes more sense, yes.
Thanks.
Hi –
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Dave Benjamin wrote:
“Michael Campbell” michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:LEEEIDNEKIDGNLMOEIJOOENICDAA.michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com…If you were to instrument my physical responses and typing rate while
coding using Python and Test Driven Development, and compare them to
my responses using Ruby, you’d get close to assessing the subjective
reason I ain’t going back.This paragraph intrigues me. Am I misreading, or are you not keen on TDD?
You probably don’t realize how funny this question is.
OK, in the spirit of community-spiritedness, I’ll take the bait.
What’s funny about it?
David
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“Michael Campbell” michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:LEEEIDNEKIDGNLMOEIJOOENICDAA.michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com…If you were to instrument my physical responses and typing rate
while
coding using Python and Test Driven Development, and compare them to
my responses using Ruby, you’d get close to assessing the subjective
reason I ain’t going back.This paragraph intrigues me. Am I misreading, or are you not keen on
TDD?You probably don’t realize how funny this question is.
OK, in the spirit of community-spiritedness, I’ll take the bait.
What’s funny about it?
Only that Phlip is one of the most active advocates of TDD on Usenet. Browse
around comp.object or comp.software.extreme-programming and you’ll see what
I mean.
Dave
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Dave Benjamin wrote:
Hi –
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 dblack@superlink.net wrote:
Hi –
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Dave Benjamin wrote:
“Michael Campbell” michael_s_campbell@yahoo.com wrote in message
This paragraph intrigues me. Am I misreading, or are you not keen on TDD?
You probably don’t realize how funny this question is.
OK, in the spirit of community-spiritedness, I’ll take the bait.
What’s funny about it?
OK, I’ve heard from some people off-list who explained it to me.
Apparently Phlip is writing a book on TFUI – and, less apparently to
me (because I am acronymically challenged), TFUI is Test First User
Interfaces.
IIMSN (it all makes sense now 
David
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home: dblack@superlink.net
work: blackdav@shu.edu
Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav
dblack@superlink.net wrote:
OK, I’ve heard from some people off-list who explained it to me.
Apparently Phlip is writing a book on TFUI – and, less apparently to
me (because I am acronymically challenged), TFUI is Test First User
Interfaces.IIMSN (it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that have been IAMSN? Or were you just proving your point about
being acronymically challenged?
Curt
Hi –
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Curt Hibbs wrote:
dblack@superlink.net wrote:
OK, I’ve heard from some people off-list who explained it to me.
Apparently Phlip is writing a book on TFUI – and, less apparently to
me (because I am acronymically challenged), TFUI is Test First User
Interfaces.IIMSN (it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that have been IAMSN? Or were you just proving your point about
being acronymically challenged?
Groan. I wasn’t trying to prove my point (it was a mistake), but I think
I did prove my point
$ alias acronym="ruby -e ‘puts ARGV[0].split.map {|s| s[0].chr.upcase}.join’ "
$ acronym “Just to be on the safe side…”
JTBOTSS
David
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Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav
What is IAMSN?
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:20:37AM +0900, dblack@superlink.net wrote:
IIMSN (it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that have been IAMSN? Or were you just proving your point about
being acronymically challenged?Groan. I wasn’t trying to prove my point (it was a mistake), but I think
I did prove my point
–
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.-“~~~”-. On the menu of a Swiss restaurant:
/ O O \ “Our wines leave you nothing to hope for”
: s :
\ _/ / Sign outside a Hong Kong tailor shop:
`-._.-’ “Ladies may have a fit upstairs”
OK, I’ve heard from some people off-list who explained it to me.
Apparently Phlip is writing a book on TFUI – and, less apparently to
me (because I am acronymically challenged), TFUI is Test First User
Interfaces.IIMSN (it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that have been IAMSN? Or were you just proving your point
about
being acronymically challenged?Groan. I wasn’t trying to prove my point (it was a mistake), but I think
I did prove my point$ alias acronym="ruby -e ‘puts ARGV[0].split.map {|s|
s[0].chr.upcase}.join’ "
$ acronym “Just to be on the safe side…”
JTBOTSS
This reminds me of the NDS, the National Society for Dyslexics.
Hal
----- Original Message -----
From: dblack@superlink.net
To: “ruby-talk ML” ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: What’s TOTALLY COMPELLING about Ruby over Python?
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Curt Hibbs wrote:
dblack@superlink.net wrote:
–
Hal Fulton
hal9000@hypermetrics.com
Daniel Carrera wrote:
IIMSN (it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that have been IAMSN? Or were you just proving your
point about
being acronymically challenged?Groan. I wasn’t trying to prove my point (it was a mistake),
but I think
I did prove my pointWhat is IAMSN?
(it all makes sense now
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:20:37AM +0900, dblack@superlink.net wrote:
This reminds me of the NDS, the National Society for Dyslexics.
Dyslexics of the world, untie!
–
Philp
I thought it stood for Domain Name System.
martin
Hal E. Fulton hal9000@hypermetrics.com wrote:
This reminds me of the NDS, the National Society for Dyslexics.
Daniel Carrera wrote:
IIMSN (it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that have been IAMSN? Or were you just proving your
point about
being acronymically challenged?Groan. I wasn’t trying to prove my point (it was a mistake),
but I think
I did prove my pointWhat is IAMSN?
(it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that be IIMSN?
(Sorry, that was unnecessary but I couldn’t resist.)
– Mike, who enjoys off-topic tangents entirely too much
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:20:37AM +0900, dblack@superlink.net wrote:
–
Michael W. Thelen
double value; /* or your money back! /
short changed; / so triple your money back! */
–Larry Wall in cons.c from the perl source code
Martin DeMello wrote:
Hal E. Fulton hal9000@hypermetrics.com wrote:
This reminds me of the NDS, the National Society for Dyslexics.
I thought it stood for Domain Name System.
Thought it was a kind of sound file.
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Cheers, www.3DProgrammer.com
Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA
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80% is gobbledygook we make up inside our own heads.
Michael W Thelen wrote:
- Curt Hibbs curt@hibbs.com [2003-08-19 15:50]:
Daniel Carrera wrote:
IIMSN (it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that have been IAMSN? Or were you just proving your
point about being acronymically challenged?Groan. I wasn’t trying to prove my point (it was a mistake),
but I think
I did prove my pointWhat is IAMSN?
(it all makes sense now
Shouldn’t that be IIMSN?
(Sorry, that was unnecessary but I couldn’t resist.)
Well, it could be. It isn’t making sense now, even if it all made sense
before.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 06:20:37AM +0900, dblack@superlink.net >>> wrote:
–
Cheers, www.3DProgrammer.com
Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA
20% of the world is real.
80% is gobbledygook we make up inside our own heads.