Bill Guindon wrote:
From my previous post (earlier today):
http://www.moonedit.com/indexen.htm
I've, done some digging on it, and it's quite impressive. Up to 14
users editing the same file simultaneously, with all cursors visible
(each user can have a different color). Add voice chat to it
(Teamspeak, Skype, etc.) and it's quite powerful.
It's a bit limited on the editing side, but it does allow
customization including macros with key bindings. Not to mention, it
seems quite new, announced some time in January I believe.
nice article about it here:
Synchronous Collaborative Text Document Editing Online: MoonEdit
It looks like it's got cool functionality. Are you suggesting to utilize this in the FreeRide project, or for people to use MoonEdit?
Zach
Shalev NessAiver wrote:
Weren't we first going to implement a "Team Version of NoPaste"?
Yes, nopaste first! Who heads up nopaste, who do we need to be in collaboration with?
Start small and work our way up I should think.
(Though this idea sounds great!)
Yes, feature creep, already upon us! =)
Zach
No moonedit! Moonedit is not very cross-platform despite the authors claims to the contrary.
So far all he has is binaries (no source code) for Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows on x86 platforms.
What about us PPC (or other Archs/Systems) users?
Anyway, it sounds like it was a suggestion to be incorporated into the FreeRide project.
I just wanted to raise a point that we should always try to support as many platforms as possible.
-Shalev
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On Feb 22, 2005, at 10:13 PM, Zach Dennis wrote:
Bill Guindon wrote:
From my previous post (earlier today):
http://www.moonedit.com/indexen.htm
I've, done some digging on it, and it's quite impressive. Up to 14
users editing the same file simultaneously, with all cursors visible
(each user can have a different color). Add voice chat to it
(Teamspeak, Skype, etc.) and it's quite powerful.
It's a bit limited on the editing side, but it does allow
customization including macros with key bindings. Not to mention, it
seems quite new, announced some time in January I believe.
nice article about it here:
Synchronous Collaborative Text Document Editing Online: MoonEdit
It looks like it's got cool functionality. Are you suggesting to utilize this in the FreeRide project, or for people to use MoonEdit?
Zach
Well, as (from what I hear) we're not just doing a plain nopaste copy, we should probably discuss this and
clarify what features we want to include. Once that's done, we can start breaking it down into manageable
pieces and coordinating on who does what.
So... should we keep imposing on the hospitality of the main ruby list, or should we take such a discussion elsewhere?
-Shalev
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On Feb 22, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Zach Dennis wrote:
Yes, nopaste first! Who heads up nopaste, who do we need to be in collaboration with?
Right now, I'm just getting the word out since I was astonished to
find it. Long term, the answer can be either, or both.
I just felt that those of us who can use it should know about it. I'm
all for the "team version of nopaste" (I better be, I suggested it),
and I think this _could_ be used to help that along. It's just a
question of who can use it, and when.
Once we have the nopaste project done, we can add this to our dream
list (aka: future projects). If we could do a truly cross-platform
version of MoonEdit, that would be fantastic -- and would probably
make many ppl happy -- including Shalev 
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:13:55 +0900, Zach Dennis <zdennis@mktec.com> wrote:
Bill Guindon wrote:
>>From my previous post (earlier today):
> http://www.moonedit.com/indexen.htm
>
> I've, done some digging on it, and it's quite impressive. Up to 14
> users editing the same file simultaneously, with all cursors visible
> (each user can have a different color). Add voice chat to it
> (Teamspeak, Skype, etc.) and it's quite powerful.
>
> It's a bit limited on the editing side, but it does allow
> customization including macros with key bindings. Not to mention, it
> seems quite new, announced some time in January I believe.
>
> nice article about it here:
> Synchronous Collaborative Text Document Editing Online: MoonEdit
>
It looks like it's got cool functionality. Are you suggesting to utilize
this in the FreeRide project, or for people to use MoonEdit?
--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
Shalev NessAiver wrote:
No moonedit! Moonedit is not very cross-platform despite the authors
claims to the contrary.
So far all he has is binaries (no source code) for Linux, FreeBSD, and
Windows on x86 platforms.
What about us PPC (or other Archs/Systems) users?
Anyway, it sounds like it was a suggestion to be incorporated into the
FreeRide project.
I just wanted to raise a point that we should always try to support as
many platforms as possible.
Doing it as a FreeRIDE plugin is definitely possible. But if you are mainly
concerned about the number of platforms/architectures that can be support,
you should first look at what FXRuby/Fox supports (since that is what
FreeRIDE uses for its GUI). If FXRuby runs everywhere that you want, then
FreeRIDE is a viable option.
Curt
Well, as (from what I hear) we're not just doing a plain nopaste copy,
we should probably discuss this and
clarify what features we want to include. Once that's done, we can
start breaking it down into manageable
pieces and coordinating on who does what.
Yep, makes sense.
So... should we keep imposing on the hospitality of the main ruby list,
or should we take such a discussion elsewhere?
maybe a mix of IRC and the RubyGarden wiki?
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:34:54 +0900, Shalev NessAiver <shalev@simplyphysics.com> wrote:
--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
Well, being open source, I haven't heard of a system that it doesn't support.
That's not to say that such a thing doesn't exist, but the supported platforms list for FXRuby
is certainly greater than that of MoonEdit's.
-Shalev
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On Feb 22, 2005, at 10:28 PM, Curt Hibbs wrote:
Shalev NessAiver wrote:
No moonedit! Moonedit is not very cross-platform despite the authors
claims to the contrary.
So far all he has is binaries (no source code) for Linux, FreeBSD, and
Windows on x86 platforms.
What about us PPC (or other Archs/Systems) users?
Anyway, it sounds like it was a suggestion to be incorporated into the
FreeRide project.
I just wanted to raise a point that we should always try to support as
many platforms as possible.
Doing it as a FreeRIDE plugin is definitely possible. But if you are mainly
concerned about the number of platforms/architectures that can be support,
you should first look at what FXRuby/Fox supports (since that is what
FreeRIDE uses for its GUI). If FXRuby runs everywhere that you want, then
FreeRIDE is a viable option.
Curt
> So... should we keep imposing on the hospitality of the main ruby list,
> or should we take such a discussion elsewhere?
maybe a mix of IRC and the RubyGarden wiki?
--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
I'm inclined to go with a combination of an ML and a wiki. This
allows us poor working saps to keep up, and get in on the discussion,
and gives everyone easy access to the entire groups content quickly.
Tanner Burson wrote:
So... should we keep imposing on the hospitality of the main ruby list,
or should we take such a discussion elsewhere?
maybe a mix of IRC and the RubyGarden wiki?
--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
I'm inclined to go with a combination of an ML and a wiki. This
allows us poor working saps to keep up, and get in on the discussion,
and gives everyone easy access to the entire groups content quickly.
How about mirroring the IRC to a mailing list? 
E
How about mirroring the IRC to a mailing list?
E
Or a forum? Usenet group? Etc.
I currently have some extra hosting space that I could use for a wiki, though I'm not sure about the mailing list.
Any suggestions as to which wiki to use (until we make our own that is)?
-Shalev
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On Feb 23, 2005, at 3:27 PM, ES wrote:
Tanner Burson wrote:
So... should we keep imposing on the hospitality of the main ruby list,
or should we take such a discussion elsewhere?
maybe a mix of IRC and the RubyGarden wiki?
--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
I'm inclined to go with a combination of an ML and a wiki. This
allows us poor working saps to keep up, and get in on the discussion,
and gives everyone easy access to the entire groups content quickly.
How about mirroring the IRC to a mailing list?
E
Doesn't really allow for any sort of communication from those on the
mailing list to those on IRC. If you're going to generate logs from
IRC, you might as well just put them in a certain place on the Wiki.
As far as getting a mailing-list, etc going, we could sign up at
rubyforge, which would also give us some other tools to work with to
get started. If noone opposes (strongly 
) I'll go ahead and create
a rubyforge project and mailing list for us. I'll post the
information back to this list when it's ready. Anyone have an issue
with that for getting started?
Shalev NessAiver wrote:
How about mirroring the IRC to a mailing list?
E
Or a forum? Usenet group? Etc.
I currently have some extra hosting space that I could use for a wiki, though I'm not sure about the mailing list.
Any suggestions as to which wiki to use (until we make our own that is)?
I suggest and vote for Ruwiki. I have an idea for getting the ML up and going, but I need to check with someone first...bbs
Zach
Tanner Burson wrote:
How about mirroring the IRC to a mailing list?
E
Doesn't really allow for any sort of communication from those on the
mailing list to those on IRC. If you're going to generate logs from
IRC, you might as well just put them in a certain place on the Wiki.
As far as getting a mailing-list, etc going, we could sign up at
rubyforge, which would also give us some other tools to work with to
get started. If noone opposes (strongly ) I'll go ahead and create
a rubyforge project and mailing list for us. I'll post the
information back to this list when it's ready. Anyone have an issue
with that for getting started?
Wow, some mail server's queue is all messed up. I got your post about the mailing list @ rubyforge over an hour ago. I just got this message.
I'm all for it, I'm already joined the mailing list! =)
Zach
Zach Dennis wrote:
Shalev NessAiver wrote:
How about mirroring the IRC to a mailing list?
E
Or a forum? Usenet group? Etc.
I currently have some extra hosting space that I could use for a wiki, though I'm not sure about the mailing list.
Any suggestions as to which wiki to use (until we make our own that is)?
I suggest and vote for Ruwiki. I have an idea for getting the ML up and going, but I need to check with someone first...bbs
Tanner, beat me to it! Great job! Tanner got an approved Ruby Virtual Users Group on RubyForge:
http://rubyforge.org/projects/ruby-vug/
Mailing list:
http://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=569
See you guys there!
Zach