Suggestion for Ruby Weekly News

Hello all,

Since I started reading ruby-talk/comp.lang.ruby the traffic
has grown enourmously. This proves the growing popularity of the language,
but also makes it difficult to track all the interesting posts.

That is why Ruby Weekly News is invaluable, presenting the gist
of all Ruby-related stuff.

To read Ruby Weekly News you have to use your web browser,
or serch for it posted to ruby-talk/comp.lang.ruby.

How about making it even more useful, creating a low traffic
Ruby Weekly News read-only mailing list?

Best regards,
Yuri Leikind

I believe ruby-weekly-news@ruby-lang.org is probably what you’re
looking for.

Also RWN is available as an RSS feed from Rubygarden.

Cheers

Dave

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On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 03:18 AM, Yuri Leikind wrote:

To read Ruby Weekly News you have to use your web browser,
or serch for it posted to ruby-talk/comp.lang.ruby.

How about making it even more useful, creating a low traffic
Ruby Weekly News read-only mailing list?

We should break up ruby-talk into topicful mailing lists. This way it
isn’t diffucult to track all the miriad off-topic threads and tangent
discussions that go on in here.

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Yuri Leikind (leikind@mova.org) wrote:

Hello all,

Since I started reading ruby-talk/comp.lang.ruby the traffic
has grown enourmously. This proves the growing popularity of the language,
but also makes it difficult to track all the interesting posts.


Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://segment7.net
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May a good idea would be change the sender [on the emails] from
[name] to" ruby-talk"+“[name]” to identify all ruby-talk
messages in our inbox. (or even create filters)

just a suggestion.

-r.

Eric Hodel wrote:

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Yuri Leikind (leikind@mova.org) wrote:

Hello all,

Since I started reading ruby-talk/comp.lang.ruby the traffic
has grown enourmously. This proves the growing popularity of the

language,

but also makes it difficult to track all the interesting posts.

We should break up ruby-talk into topicful mailing lists. This way it
isn’t diffucult to track all the miriad off-topic threads and tangent
discussions that go on in here.

Quoteing drbrain@segment7.net, on Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 03:47:04AM +0900:

We should break up ruby-talk into topicful mailing lists. This way it
isn’t diffucult to track all the miriad off-topic threads and tangent
discussions that go on in here.

Absolutely! I recommend a new list: ruby-off-topic@ruby-lang.org

Anybody who is about to post to ruby-talk, but realizes their post is not
related to ruby, will be sure to post it to ruby-off-topic. We can also
create a new list for public chastisements of those who post off-topic
threads to ruby-talk, or on-topic threads to ruby-off-topic:

ruby-users-who-will-never-use-ruby-again-after-getting-chastised-on-ruby-talk@perl.org

Sam

Btw, I don’t personally think there is much traffic on ruby-talk. There
seems to be about 5-10 new threads a day. Other than announcements, I
don’t see any clear categories large enough to warrant breaking into
multiple lists. Having three lists each with only 2-3 new topics a day
just seems mildly annoying. And if people can’t figure out which to
post to, they’ll cross-post, and then we’ll be seeing the same post
several times!

Also, isn’t a small percentage of friendly chatter on a list a sign
of a cheerful and active community?

I think whether the current traffic is a burden might depend on your
mail agent. Many thread email, so that an entire thread, after you’ve
read the first post (or just the title), and decided its not of
interest, can be deleted at once. Read linux-kernel. Now that’s
traffic.

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Yuri Leikind (leikind@mova.org) wrote:

ruby-users-who-will-never-use-ruby-again-after-getting-chastised-on-ruby-talk@perl.org

;-D Thanks for the best laugh I’ve had all day …! :slight_smile:

Bill

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From: “Sam Roberts” sroberts@uniserve.com

Absolutely! I recommend a new list: ruby-off-topic@ruby-lang.org

Anybody who is about to post to ruby-talk, but realizes their post is not
related to ruby, will be sure to post it to ruby-off-topic. We can also
create a new list for public chastisements of those who post off-topic
threads to ruby-talk, or on-topic threads to ruby-off-topic:

ruby-users-who-will-never-use-ruby-again-after-getting-chastised-on-ruby-tal
k@perl.org

Sam

lol… that’s one for the journal!

Also, isn’t a small percentage of friendly chatter on a list a sign
of a cheerful and active community?

Sam - I agree completely.

Wanna find a reason to hate a language? Start with the people who are
supposed to help you learn it.

I’ve completely abandoned certain languages where the community isn’t
‘normal’ enough.

Participating in mailing lists / forums / etc. should feel the same as
walking in your front door… you should feel at home.

-Rich

Sam Roberts wrote:

Quoteing drbrain@segment7.net, on Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 03:47:04AM +0900:

Btw, I don’t personally think there is much traffic on ruby-talk. There
seems to be about 5-10 new threads a day. Other than announcements, I
don’t see any clear categories large enough to warrant breaking into
multiple lists. Having three lists each with only 2-3 new topics a day
just seems mildly annoying. And if people can’t figure out which to
post to, they’ll cross-post, and then we’ll be seeing the same post
several times!

Also, isn’t a small percentage of friendly chatter on a list a sign
of a cheerful and active community?

I think whether the current traffic is a burden might depend on your
mail agent. Many thread email, so that an entire thread, after you’ve
read the first post (or just the title), and decided its not of
interest, can be deleted at once. Read linux-kernel. Now that’s
traffic.

I have to agree. ruby-talk has a rather small volume of messages per
day. Enough so that if I leave it for 3 days I’wont have to spend three
hours reading my backlog. Let’s see, it’s been 14 hours since I checked
my email and ruby-talk has 24 new messages, two of whom are spam and one
in japanese (which I also think is spam - somebody with knowledge of
japanese please confirm :slight_smile: ). Any of the jakarta-apache mailing lists
would have triple this ammount in the rush hours.
I don’t agree with splitting the mailing-list according to topic, not
when the volume remains at these levels. Filtering is easy, all messages
have a reply-to header of ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org and/or a to: of the
same. And as you very nicely pointed out for me, we don’t get those
pesky cross-postings (and the associated “sorry for the cross-post, but
this is probably interesting for all” messages).
V.-

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I have been asked this question every now and then on IRC. Seeing as it is an
@ruby-lang.org mailing list, is there any reason why it does not appear
grouped with the other mailing lists on the ruby-lang.org site?


Signed,
Holden Glova

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On Sat, 05 Apr 2003 02:40, Dave Thomas wrote:

On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 03:18 AM, Yuri Leikind wrote:

To read Ruby Weekly News you have to use your web browser,
or serch for it posted to ruby-talk/comp.lang.ruby.

How about making it even more useful, creating a low traffic
Ruby Weekly News read-only mailing list?

I believe ruby-weekly-news@ruby-lang.org is probably what you’re
looking for.

Also RWN is available as an RSS feed from Rubygarden.

Cheers

Dave

— “[ruby-talk] - Bermejo, Rodrigo[” rodrigo.bermejo@ps.ge.com
wrote:

May a good idea would be  change the sender [on the emails]

from
[name] to" ruby-talk"+“[name]” to identify all ruby-talk
messages in our inbox. (or even create filters)

Is there a digest form of the mailing list? Like yahoogroups or hate
it, that’s a nice feature to be able to let each user control that.

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