Ruby's Trac Alternative

Bil Kleb wrote:

So, is the original branch still active?

I suppose you ask about collaboa branch.

You can monitor that here: http://dev.collaboa.org/repository/changesets

Last changeset is 599, Dec 19 2006, by jason.

Thanks again

You are welcome.

Ernad

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Thanks for the link Ernad! It does look quite good :slight_smile:

Dimitrij, I looked at both the about pages for Retrospectiva and Collaboa, but I couldn't get a clear sense of why you decided to start a new project, rather than work on Collaboa. I get the impression that it has something to do with the extensible architecture in Retrospectiva. Is that correct? If you're willing, I'd love to hear some of your justifications.

-Mat

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On Jan 4, 2007, at 9:13 AM, [ Dim --- wrote:

Ernad Husremović wrote:

It led me to the http://www.retrospectiva.org

I have tried retrospectiva and It seems me quite usable and features
rich.

Many thanks! Retrospectiva is currently under heavy development. I hope
to able to release 1.0RC1 soon, but I need some more help with testing
(stability is a key goal of Retrospectiva). Please check the website for
announcements and further infos.

Dimitrij

Ernad Husremovi wrote:

It led me to the http://www.retrospectiva.org

I have tried retrospectiva and It seems me quite usable and features
rich.

Many thanks! Retrospectiva is currently under heavy development. I
hope
to able to release 1.0RC1 soon, but I need some more help with testing
(stability is a key goal of Retrospectiva). Please check the
website for
announcements and further infos.

Dimitrij

Thanks for the link Ernad! It does look quite good :slight_smile:

Dimitrij, I looked at both the about pages for Retrospectiva and
Collaboa, but I couldn't get a clear sense of why you decided to
start a new project, rather than work on Collaboa. I get the
impression that it has something to do with the extensible
architecture in Retrospectiva. Is that correct? If you're willing,
I'd love to hear some of your justifications.

-Mat

I wrote a note about my reasons on the collaboa mailing list
(http://lists.collaboa.org/pipermail/collaboa-talk/2006-December/000465.html\).

You'll maybe also find some answers on the Retrospectiva mailing list:
http://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=2685\.

Cheers,
Dimitrij

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Parragh Szabolcs írta:

Just to let a counter-opinion be heard as well: We have used Trac for many projects, averaging 3-7 developers, and it has been a great help and an enormous help.

meaning: great tool, and an enormous help:)

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Parragh Szabolcs
e-mail: parragh@dayka.hu
web: parszab.nir.hu

We are using Trac right now (4 developers, ~10 biz people), and its
working well so far. The only thing I miss is having a way to attach
estimates to tasks, whether it be "points" in the xp sense or just
hours. I know it can be done with custom fields in Trac, but just
haven't looked into the details. The SVN integration is very nice.

Bugzilla may be powerful, buts its UI is just so horrid that I dread
using it. It definitely feels like the interface was developed by
programmers who just wanted to throw every field and option onto the
screen, with no regard to usability. For the vast majority of items,
you just don't need to mess with 20 fields to enter a to-do item - so
why not hide them behind an "advanced" link?

- Rob

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On 12/22/06, Martin DeMello <martindemello@gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/22/06, Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Trans wrote:
> >
> > I think there is a tendency to overestimate tools like Trac.
>
> Indeed, as the http://agilemanifesto.org says,
>
> Individuals and interactions over processes and tools
>
> but for a team of 12 under a posse of project managers,
> Trac is a necessary evil. And when you approach tens
> of teams and whole organizations worth of project managers,
> Trac looks gossamer thin.

Personally, our startup (10 people at the moment) has been a lot
happier since we moved from Trac to Bugzilla + Mediawiki. I can't
remember the specifics, but Trac simply lacked some features our QA
lead was used to from Bugzilla, and it was too much of a pain to try
and see if we could find a third party plugin that implemented them.

On the other hand, Trac was very quick and easy to set up, and got us
off the ground with minimum effort. I wouldn't have wanted to start
off using Bugzilla.

martin

Reminds me of the classic -- wGetGUI -- the Graphical User Interface (GUI) for wGet :slight_smile:

martin

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On 12/22/06, Rob Sanheim <rsanheim@gmail.com> wrote:

Bugzilla may be powerful, buts its UI is just so horrid that I dread
using it. It definitely feels like the interface was developed by
programmers who just wanted to throw every field and option onto the
screen, with no regard to usability. For the vast majority of items,

Rob Sanheim wrote:

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On 12/22/06, Martin DeMello <martindemello@gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/22/06, Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Trans wrote:
> >
> > I think there is a tendency to overestimate tools like Trac.
>
> Indeed, as the http://agilemanifesto.org says,
>
> Individuals and interactions over processes and tools
>
> but for a team of 12 under a posse of project managers,
> Trac is a necessary evil. And when you approach tens
> of teams and whole organizations worth of project managers,
> Trac looks gossamer thin.

Personally, our startup (10 people at the moment) has been a lot
happier since we moved from Trac to Bugzilla + Mediawiki. I can't
remember the specifics, but Trac simply lacked some features our QA
lead was used to from Bugzilla, and it was too much of a pain to try
and see if we could find a third party plugin that implemented them.

On the other hand, Trac was very quick and easy to set up, and got us
off the ground with minimum effort. I wouldn't have wanted to start
off using Bugzilla.

martin

We are using Trac right now (4 developers, ~10 biz people), and its
working well so far. The only thing I miss is having a way to attach
estimates to tasks, whether it be "points" in the xp sense or just
hours. I know it can be done with custom fields in Trac, but just
haven't looked into the details. The SVN integration is very nice.

Time tracking can be added with a patch. I don't have the details handy (I've rebuilt my server but not gotten around to that part of the Trac stuff), but when I had it installed it was very handy. Google around for Trac+TimeTracking or something.

I used it to devise project estimates and track code velocity. Quite nice, especially how it integrate with the roadmap view.

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James Britt

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  universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by
  uncertainty cannot be the truth."
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