# Ruby Weekly News 29th May - 4th June 2006 **URL:** \ **Category:** ruby-talk\ **Created:** [6 June 2006 11:17 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011 "2006-06-06T11:17:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tim\_Sutherland1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Tim\_Sutherland1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Tim_Sutherland1)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 11:17 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/1 "2006-06-06T11:17:59Z")
[http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) Ruby Weekly News 29th May - 4th June 2006 > **···** > > ========================================= > >    Ruby Weekly News is a summary of the week's activity for the ruby-talk >    mailing list, and its mirror equivalents the ruby-talk google group and >    the Ruby forum. (The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup used to be equivalent, >    but is now independent. Take a look at gmane if you wish to use usenet >    reader.) > >    This week's newsletter is brought to you by Tim Sutherland >    and the ninja summariser. > >    [Contribute to the next newsletter] > > # Articles and Announcements > >      \* Ruby on Rails Workshop in Kansas City ! >      ----------------------------------------- > >        The Kansas City Ruby User's Group proudly present their "Ruby on >        Rails Workshop". > >        "This one-and-half-day workshop will offer a quick introduction to >        Ruby and the Ruby on Rails web application framework." > >        "Sponsored by Reevik, Inc., it will provide web developers with a >        basic understanding of the concepts, tools and tips needed to build >        full-featured web applications using Ruby on Rails." > >        "The workshop is spread over three half-day sessions on June 19th, >        20th, and 21st." > >      \* It Will Get Better - Article Mini Series >      ------------------------------------------ > >        Not exactly Ruby, but Zach Dennis has begun a mini-series called It >        Will Get Better which follows a journey "through my eyes and >        experiences about agile software development, time management, >        managing expectations, and system administration." > >      \* New leadership for ruby-spreadsheet >      ------------------------------------- > >        Daniel Berger's looking for a new maintainer for the spreadsheet >        package. It's used to write Excel files (whereas parseexcel is >        for reading them). > >      \* Presentation proposals now being accepted for RubyConf 2006 >      ------------------------------------------------------------- > >        David A. Black announced that proposals for presentations are now >        being accepted for RubyConf 2006, to be held in Colorado in October >        20th-22nd. > >        The deadline for submissions is June 30th. > >      \* Ruby papers in Linux Journal >      ------------------------------ > >        Linux Journal this week: Ruby Ruby Ruby. A big "Ruby sign" on the >        cover, right next to DHH's head. > >        Tim Beckers says that Ruby is also on the cover of Dr. Dobbs. "This >        place will get crowded soon." > >      \* Another Rails book announcement >      --------------------------------- > >        Pat Eyler notes that Apress have announced a book "Beginning Ruby >        on Rails: From Novice to Professional", and say that more are in >        the pipeline. > >        "Please feel free to drop some comments on the blog to voice your >        support for Ruby books and/or suggestions about how Apress can do >        them right (topics, how they can get involved in the community, >        etc.)" > >      \* a good home for some Ruby Projects >      ------------------------------------ > >        Citing work commitments, Pat Eyler announces that he's going to >        have to orphan several of his Ruby projects. To prevent this, he's >        in search of new maintainers for (among others): > >           \* r43, an implementation of the 43 Things API. >           \* The Ruby Web Bench, a toolkit for performing capacity and >             functional tests against a website. >           \* Ironically, The Ruby Programming Shop, a project to adopt >             orphaned Ruby projects. > > # User Group News > >      \* Toronto RUG meeting Sun 4 June 2006 >      ------------------------------------- > >        Mike Stok says the next Toronto Ruby User Group meeting will be at >        Sunday 4th June 2006, at the Linux Caffe on Harbord Street. > >      \* Skåne/Sjælland Ruby User Group >      -------------------------------- > >        The Skåne/Sjælland Ruby User Group (SSRUG) have been gaining >        momentum following their first two meetings, and are looking for >        new members. > >        (Skåne is a province of Sweden, and Sjælland is an island of >        Denmark.) > >      \* Milwaukee Ruby User Group Meeting >      ----------------------------------- > >        The Milwaukee Ruby User's Group (Wisconsin) is pleased to announce >        its first meeting, on Wednesday June 7, 2006. > >        "The Milwaukee RUG would like to thank SpiderLogic for providing >        space for the meeting." > > # Threads > >   Ruby's Bignum >   ------------- > >    Aaron Patterson asks whether it's possible to prevent Ruby from >    automatically coercing Fixnums into Bignums, since he wants the >    behavior of 32-bit integer arithmetic. Various suggestions follow, >    falling into roughly three categories: > >     1. Use pack/unpack to force the result into a 32-bit integer >     2. Bitwise operations >     3. Subclassing Integer to provide an Int32 class with the desired >        behavior > >    David Balmain notes that (absent that last solution), you'll still have >    to use Bignums to represent 32-bit integers at times: on 32-bit >    platforms, Fixnum has only a 31-bit range. > >   ruby-dev summary 28606-28636 >   ---------------------------- > >    Minero Aoki summarises the Japanese list ruby-dev, and includes a note >    on how to load a Ruby file `into' a module: >    mod.module\_eval(File.read("./x.rb")). > >   Creating Daemon Processes in Windows >   ------------------------------------ > >    Jatinder Singh wants to create a "daemon process" in Windows, in other >    words "start another process which should continue to run even after >    the parent process dies." > >    Victor Shepelev replies that the daemon concept is called a "service" >    in Windows, and the win32-service module from the win32utils project >    lets you work with services from Ruby. > >    Jatinder Singh: "Thanks Victor! Win32-service helped me achieve what I >    intended to do." > >   Please kill the children as you're leaving >   ------------------------------------------ > >    Ohad Lutzky asks a rather grimly-phrased question about processes on >    Un\*x: how does one ensure that forked child processes are reaped when >    the parent process dies unexpectedly? Ordinarily those children would >    live on, adopted by the init process. > >    Several people suggest setting up "heartbeat" pipes, read by the parent >    process, to which the child processes write; when the parent dies, the >    pipe breaks, and the children are killed with SIGPIPE. Ara T. Howard >    has even written slave, a library for exactly this purpose. > >    Sam Roberts, in turn, hauls out R. Stevens and observes that in theory >    the children should get killed automatically with SIGHUP if the parent >    process has made itself their session leader. > >   What happened the week of March 19th? >   ------------------------------------- > >    Curt Hibbs was looking over the download statistics for the One-Click >    Ruby Installer for Windows and Instant Rails, and found a big jump from >    the week of March 19. > >    \> Prior to the 19th the one-click installer averaged 10,000 downloads a >    \> week, and had been at the level for quite some time. But starting the >    \> week of March 19th the downloads tripled to 30,000 a week where they >    \> have remained to this day. > >    "Does anybody know what happened that week?" > >    There were not (yet) any replies. > >   Trying to determine presentation author >   --------------------------------------- > >    James Britt is trying to find an attribution for the presentation on >    [ruby-doc.org](http://ruby-doc.org) entitled "Ruby Language Talk" [zip]. "Does anyone know who >    the author is?" > >   LWP like library for Ruby? >   -------------------------- > >    Robert Nicholson wonders if Ruby has any libraries similar to Perl's >    LWP (libwww-perl), i.e. libraries that act like a web browser to help >    you to scrape data off web pages. > >    WWW::Mechanize and HTTPAccess2 are mentioned in the replies. > >   Where can one find examples of masterful Ruby code? >   --------------------------------------------------- > >    Alder Green asks for examples of masterful Ruby code he could read in >    order to become a better Ruby programmer. > >    Greg Donald says that [rubyquiz.com](http://rubyquiz.com) is worth looking at (and especially >    the Best of Ruby Quiz book), while Ross Bamford points to the Facets >    project (a collection of extensions to Ruby's core and standard >    libraries that includes many examples of excellent, short, >    self-contained pieces of code). > >    Simon Strandgaard suggests looking at the code in Ruby's standard >    library itself, and others say that the blogs RedHanded (by >    whytheluckystiff) and eigenclass (by Mauricio Fernandez) often show >    elegant code. > >    A. S. Bradbury says the gonzui code-browser on RAA (the Ruby >    Application Archive) provides a web interface for quickly browing the >    source code of Ruby projects without having to download them. > >    "If you see a project you've heard about or used, or one that just >    looks interesting why not look through? Certainly, you may not always >    be looking at great Ruby code, but I think you can learn a lot this >    way." > >    Christian Neukirchen: "I'd say that I'm pretty well-versed in Ruby. I >    have not yet seen much masterful code. I'm not sure I could point out a >    medium-sized piece of Ruby that's \*truly\* and \*completely\* masterful." >    ("Does masterful code get less and less the more you advance?" he >    ponders.) > >    Alexandru Popescu: "It may be like music, where the more one knows and >    the more one has heard, the harder it is to get excited about new music >    (though when you do find something good, it can be \*really\* exciting)." > >   Hash to OpenStruct (#81) >   ------------------------ > >    This week's Ruby Quiz is by Hans Fugal. > >    \> More than a few times I've wished I could get a nice nested >    \> OpenStruct out of YAML data, instead of the more unwieldy nested >    \> hashes. It's mostly a matter of style. It's a straightforward task to >    \> convert a nested hash structure into a nested OpenStruct, but it's >    \> the sort of task that you can do a lot of ways, and I'll bet some of >    \> you can come up with more elegant and/or more efficient ways than I >    \> have so far. > >    Some tough test cases are posted in the replies, including one by >    MenTaLguY of a YAML document that's not a tree. > >   I'm Collecting Media References for Ruby and Rails >   -------------------------------------------------- > >    Curt Hibbs announces that he's collecting URLs to articles, podcasts >    and videos about Ruby, and about Rails. > >    "If have such a collections yourself (or just know of some good >    references), could you please share them on this thread." > >    James Britt: [http://del.icio.us/tag/ruby](http://del.icio.us/tag/ruby). > >   Ruby Manual >   ----------- > >    Nathaniel Brown announces the "Ruby Manual", a fully searchable Ruby >    manual that allows you to add comments (like with the PHP >    documentation). (Also: "Rails Manual".) > >    The sites are generated entirely with Conor Hunt's Rannotate tool, and >    are virtually identical to Conor's "Ruby API Documentation" and >    "Ruby on Rails API Documentation" sites. > >    There are questions about why Nathaniel created new sites, since these >    will now split the annotation information between them and Conor's. >    More on Conor's blog. > >    Conor's goals with Rannotate are to integrate it into >    [api.rubyonrails.org](http://api.rubyonrails.org) and [ruby-doc.org](http://ruby-doc.org), have collaborative documentation >    controlled by the community, and generate diffs that can be directly >    applied to source code repositories, in order to merge updated >    documentation into the Ruby (and other) source trees. > >   This is brain dead, but is it stupid? >   ------------------------------------ > >    Jeff Pritchard starts writing an application to show some simple charts >    for statistics from his Rails app. > >    He's looked at the sparklines and gruff libraries, but finds that the >    first only supports very simple charts, and the second requires too >    much time to install. > >    \> It occurred to me that the reason they were requiring rmagic and >    \> other stuff has to do with needing a way to so some really simple >    \> drawing. Sort of like using photoshop to paint a mustache on your >    \> girlfriends picture - it works and inspires the expected knee reflex >    \> in the girl, but it's total overkill for the job. > >    Instead of using one of the existing libraries, he begins thinking >    about drawing bar-charts by scaling a square block up by the required >    amount in HTML. For example, > > \ > \ > \ > \ > >    "What do you think, this is clearly brain dead, but is it stupid too?" > >    Trevor Squires points out css\_graphs, a Ruby charting library that uses >    only CSS, and Kate Rhodes lists SVG::Graph and PlotKit (supports Canvas >    and SVG charts). > >    With respect to Jeff's idea, Dave Howell says that he could use tables >    with background-coloured cells instead of the blublock.jpg. > > # New Releases > >   foxGUIb v0.7 (for FXRuby 1.6) >   ----------------------------- > >    As a followup to the recent release of FXRuby 1.6.0, Meinrad Recheis >    announces foxGUIb v0.7, a GUI creator and code generator for FXRuby >    similar in spirit to Glade and other applications which let you lay out >    widgets in a point-and-click fashion. > >   Pimki 1.8.200 >   ------------- > >    Assaph Mehr fixes some bugs in Pimki: The Wiki-based PIM to >    GetThingsDone! > >   Madeleine 0.7.2 >   --------------- > >    Madeline, a transparent object persistence framework, re-emerges after >    a period of two years without any releases. Madeline 0.7.2 includes the >    following fixes: > >      \* An automatic class with no methods would cause an error >      \* System sanity check at first use >      \* Now creates full path to storage files, not just the last directory >        (reported by Wayne Vucenic) > >   RMagick 1.12.0 >   -------------- > >    Timothy Hunter makes a new release of RMagick to fix an API >    incompatibility with Image#level introduced in the last release. >    "Thanks to Al Evans for reporting it and helping me find a fix." > >    "RMagick is an interface to the ImageMagick and GraphicsMagick image >    processing libraries. RMagick supports more than 90 image formats, >    including GIF, JPEG, PNG. It includes RVG, a 2D drawing API. RMagick >    comes with comprehensive HTML documentation." > >    Timothy also encourages users to ask web hosting services with very >    old versions to upgrade, as several memory leaks have been fixed >    in recent releases. >    (He later notes he's been using valgrind to test for leaks.) > >    Aredridel: "Thank you for that. Fixed our memory usage problems that I >    was just in the process of narrowing down to the library. Beat me to >    the punch!" > >   rcov 0.5.0: code coverage + callsite info, RubyGems, Rant... >   ------------------------------------------------------------ > >    Mauricio Fernandez announces the recent release of rcov 0.5.0, a tool >    useful for evaluating test coverage of Ruby code. For the first time, >    rcov is now available in gem form, with both Win32 and >    platform-independent flavors. > >   id3lib-ruby 0.3.0 (Windows binary gem) >   ------------------------------------- > >    Robin Stocker announces the 0.3.0 release of id3lib-ruby, this time >    with a Windows binary gem. "id3lib-ruby provides a Ruby interface to >    the id3lib C++ library for easily editing ID3 tags (v1 and v2) like >    with pyid3lib." > >    "Thanks go to Mauricio Fernandez for his article on how to >    cross-compile Ruby extensions and to Curt Hibbs for his installer of a >    mingw-based Ruby." > >   win32-dir 0.3.0 >   --------------- > >    Daniel Berger: "In the ongoing effort to Rubyify as much of the Win32 >    Utils project as we can, I'm pleased to announce the release of >    win32-dir 0.3.0." > >    It's now pure Ruby, and (in keeping with the trend) now offers a gem. > >   ruby-breakpoint 0.5.1: Now with fewer bugs >   ------------------------------------------ > >    Florian Gross releases an update to ruby-breakpoint to fix some bugs, >    and announces he's going to be working on ruby-breakpoint for this >    year's Summary of Code. > >    "If there is anything else I can do to make ruby-breakpoint more useful >    or easier to use please tell me. Now is the best time to suggest new >    features!" >    (Current TODOs include creating a cross-platform GTK2 front-end.) > >    "ruby-breakpoint lets you inspect and modify state at run time. This >    allows you to diagnose bugs, patch applications and more all via IRB by >    simply doing a method call at the place you want to investigate." > >   Nebular Gauntlet 0.1 >   -------------------- > >    Steven Davidovitz presents version 0.1 of Nebular Gauntlet, an >    Asteroids-like multiplayer game written in Ruby with Ruby/SDL. It's >    still at a very early stage of its development, but the basics of >    gameplay are already implemented. ---
**Author:** ![David\_A\_Black3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6a8cbe/32.png) [@David\_A\_Black3](https://rubytalk.org/u/David_A_Black3)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 11:25 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/2 "2006-06-06T11:25:00Z")
Hi -- > **···** > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Tim Sutherland wrote: > > >     \* Presentation proposals now being accepted for RubyConf 2006 > >     ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >       David A. Black announced that proposals for presentations are now > >       being accepted for RubyConf 2006, to be held in Colorado in October > >       20th-22nd. > > > >       The deadline for submissions is June 30th. > > [http://proposals.rubygarden.org](http://proposals.rubygarden.org) 🙂 > > David > > -- > David A. Black (dblack@wobblini.net) > \* Ruby Power and Light, LLC ([http://www.rubypowerandlight.com](http://www.rubypowerandlight.com)) >    \> Ruby and Rails consultancy and training > \* Author of "Ruby for Rails" from Manning Publications! >    \> [Ruby for Rails](http://www.manning.com/black) ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_Hunter1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Tim\_Hunter1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Tim_Hunter1)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 11:55 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/3 "2006-06-06T11:55:04Z")
Tim Sutherland wrote: > [http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) > > Ruby Weekly News 29th May - 4th June 2006 Thanks for doing this, Tim. It's always a pleasure reading your summaries. > **···** > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). ---
**Author:** ![Phil\_Tomson1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Phil\_Tomson1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Phil_Tomson1)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 16:13 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/4 "2006-06-06T16:13:56Z")
I hate to nitpick, but comp.lang.ruby isn't independent by choice. The wording above makes it sound like they were a rebel group that split off. I think it would be great to also summarize activities on c.l.r as well... at least until someone sets up a gateway again. I'm still hoping that a gateway will be setup and unity will be restored.   Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think it's important to have a USENET presence. Thanks for all your hard work in getting the weekly news out! Phil > **···** > > On 6/6/06, Tim Sutherland \ wrote: > > > [http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) > > > > # Ruby Weekly News 29th May - 4th June 2006 > > > >    Ruby Weekly News is a summary of the week's activity for the ruby-talk > >    mailing list, and its mirror equivalents the ruby-talk google group and > >    the Ruby forum. (The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup used to be equivalent, > >    but is now independent. Take a look at gmane if you wish to use usenet > >    reader.) ---
**Author:** ![Curt\_Work\_Hibbs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Curt\_Work\_Hibbs1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Curt_Work_Hibbs1)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 13:31 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/5 "2006-06-06T13:31:27Z")
+1 Its hard to keep up with the mailing list. I depend on RWN to fill in the stuff that I missed. Thanks! \*Mystery Question:\* Last week I posted a mysterious question (actually, a question about a mystery). There were no answers posted. Even so, Tim picked up on this lone post and included in RWN (good catch!). Anyway, I'd still like to know what happened the week of March 19th if anyone cares to hazard a guess. Curt > **···** > > On 6/6/06, Tim Hunter \ wrote: > > > Tim Sutherland wrote: > > \> [http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) > > \> > > \> Ruby Weekly News 29th May - 4th June 2006 > > > > Thanks for doing this, Tim. It's always a pleasure reading your > > summaries. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Britt4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@James\_Britt4](https://rubytalk.org/u/James_Britt4)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 18:29 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/6 "2006-06-06T18:29:39Z")
dblack@wobblini.net wrote: > Hi -- > > >     \* Presentation proposals now being accepted for RubyConf 2006 > >     ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >       David A. Black announced that proposals for presentations are now > >       being accepted for RubyConf 2006, to be held in Colorado in October > >       20th-22nd. > > > >       The deadline for submissions is June 30th. > > [http://proposals.rubygarden.org](http://proposals.rubygarden.org) 🙂 I've noticed that the weekly news does not seem to include links for most items. Is that on purpose? Not to make more work for anyone but it makes it quite hard to follow up on things. For example, the Zach Dennis mini-series: where can I go read it? Anyway, I'm not looking to gripe about a fine service, just curious. Thanks! > **···** > > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Tim Sutherland wrote: > > -- > James Britt > > "I often work by avoidance." > - Brian Eno ---
**Author:** ![HAL\_9000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/90ced4/32.png) [@HAL\_9000](https://rubytalk.org/u/HAL_9000)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 20:54 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/7 "2006-06-06T20:54:20Z")
Phil Tomson wrote: > I hate to nitpick, but comp.lang.ruby isn't independent by choice. > The wording above makes it sound like they were a rebel group that > split off. I think it would be great to also summarize activities on > c.l.r as well... at least until someone sets up a gateway again. I'm > still hoping that a gateway will be setup and unity will be restored. > Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think it's important to have a USENET > presence. \*sigh\* Yes, I miss the gateway, too... I'd consider volunteering, but right now I'm up to my .asp in allocators. Maybe in a couple of months... Hal ---
**Author:** ![Gene\_Tani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gene\_Tani](https://rubytalk.org/u/Gene_Tani)\ **Post date:** [7 June 2006 06:24 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/8 "2006-06-07T06:24:11Z")
Tim Hunter wrote: > Tim Sutherland wrote: > \> [http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) > \> > \> Ruby Weekly News 29th May - 4th June 2006 > > Thanks for doing this, Tim. It's always a pleasure reading your > summaries. > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). I want to add my thanks. There's some great stuff in ruby land, whoever does rubycorner.com must have spend a lot of time on technorati so we don't have to. Today's lead story on planetruby is entertaining, if you know these python characters [http://planetruby.0x42.net/](http://planetruby.0x42.net/) This one I'm not sure what to do with: > **[Swik](https://swik.net)** > > Swik News ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_Sutherland1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Tim\_Sutherland1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Tim_Sutherland1)\ **Post date:** [7 June 2006 10:20 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/9 "2006-06-07T10:20:44Z")
Thanks for the feedback. I wasn't really sure what had happened to comp.lang.ruby, except that it was no longer being mirrored to ruby-talk. I've changed the text on this week's newsletter, and from next week comp.lang.ruby will be included in the summary. > **···** > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 01:13:56AM +0900, Phil Tomson wrote: > > > On 6/6/06, Tim Sutherland \ wrote: > > \>[http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) > > \> > > \>Ruby Weekly News 29th May - 4th June 2006 > > \>========================================= > > \> > > \> Ruby Weekly News is a summary of the week's activity for the ruby-talk > > \> mailing list, and its mirror equivalents the ruby-talk google group and > > \> the Ruby forum. (The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup used to be equivalent, > > \> but is now independent. Take a look at gmane if you wish to use usenet > > \> reader.) > > \> > > > > I hate to nitpick, but comp.lang.ruby isn't independent by choice. > > The wording above makes it sound like they were a rebel group that > > split off. I think it would be great to also summarize activities on > > c.l.r as well... at least until someone sets up a gateway again. I'm > > still hoping that a gateway will be setup and unity will be restored. > > Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think it's important to have a USENET > > presence. > > > > Thanks for all your hard work in getting the weekly news out! ---
**Author:** ![Mauricio\_Fernandez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@Mauricio\_Fernandez](https://rubytalk.org/u/Mauricio_Fernandez)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 18:41 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/10 "2006-06-06T18:41:12Z")
You can find all the links at     [http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) (the URL was at the top of the message) It seems the posting to ruby-talk is generated with something like lynx -dump -nolist > **···** > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 03:29:39AM +0900, James Britt wrote: > > > I've noticed that the weekly news does not seem to include links for > > most items. > > > > Is that on purpose? > > > > Not to make more work for anyone but it makes it quite hard to follow up > > on things. For example, the Zach Dennis mini-series: where can I go > > read it? > > -- > Mauricio Fernandez - [http://eigenclass.org](http://eigenclass.org) - singular Ruby ---
**Author:** ![James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://rubytalk.org/u/James_Edward_Gray_II)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 21:11 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/11 "2006-06-06T21:11:54Z")
I've emailed Dennis to see if I can get the source. If I succeed there, I'll see if I can track down a new home for it... James Edward Gray II > **···** > > On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Hal Fulton wrote: > > > Phil Tomson wrote: > > > > > I hate to nitpick, but comp.lang.ruby isn't independent by choice. > > > The wording above makes it sound like they were a rebel group that > > > split off. I think it would be great to also summarize activities on > > > c.l.r as well... at least until someone sets up a gateway again. I'm > > > still hoping that a gateway will be setup and unity will be restored. > > > Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think it's important to have a USENET > > > presence. > > > > \*sigh\* Yes, I miss the gateway, too... > > > > I'd consider volunteering, but right now I'm > > up to my .asp in allocators. ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dbc845/32.png) [@Randy\_Kramer](https://rubytalk.org/u/Randy_Kramer)\ **Post date:** [7 June 2006 17:11 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/12 "2006-06-07T17:11:58Z")
+1 Randy Kramer > **···** > > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 09:31 am, Curt Hibbs wrote: > > > On 6/6/06, Tim Hunter \ wrote: > > \> Thanks for doing this, Tim. It's always a pleasure reading your > > \> summaries. > > +1 ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_Hunter4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@Tim\_Hunter4](https://rubytalk.org/u/Tim_Hunter4)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 21:26 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/13 "2006-06-06T21:26:12Z")
James Edward Gray II wrote: > I've emailed Dennis to see if I can get the source. If I succeed there, I'll see if I can track down a new home for it... > > James Edward Gray II Is this a service that can be contracted out to a business, or can it only be done by volunteers? ---
**Author:** ![James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://rubytalk.org/u/James_Edward_Gray_II)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 21:46 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/14 "2006-06-06T21:46:08Z")
Dennis is sending me the source in the next couple of days. I'm putting the feelers out for a host, we will see if I get any bites... James Edward Gray II > **···** > > On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:11 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote: > > > On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Hal Fulton wrote: > > > > > \*sigh\* Yes, I miss the gateway, too... > > > > > > I'd consider volunteering, but right now I'm > > > up to my .asp in allocators. > > > > I've emailed Dennis to see if I can get the source. If I succeed there, I'll see if I can track down a new home for it... ---
**Author:** ![James\_Britt4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@James\_Britt4](https://rubytalk.org/u/James_Britt4)\ **Post date:** [7 June 2006 00:11 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/15 "2006-06-07T00:11:34Z")
Mauricio Fernandez wrote: > > I've noticed that the weekly news does not seem to include links for most items. > > > > Is that on purpose? > > > > Not to make more work for anyone but it makes it quite hard to follow up on things. For example, the Zach Dennis mini-series: where can I go read it? > > You can find all the links at >     [http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) > > (the URL was at the top of the message) > > It seems the posting to ruby-talk is generated with something like lynx -dump -nolist Ah so. Thanks. That seems to the most useful version to peruse. James Britt [http://www.ruby-doc.org](http://www.ruby-doc.org) - Ruby Help & Documentation [Ruby Code & Style](http://www.artima.com/rubycs/) - The Journal By & For Rubyists [http://www.rubystuff.com](http://www.rubystuff.com) - The Ruby Store for Ruby Stuff [http://www.jamesbritt.com](http://www.jamesbritt.com) - Playing with Better Toys [http://www.30secondrule.com](http://www.30secondrule.com) - Building Better Tools > **···** > > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 03:29:39AM +0900, James Britt wrote: ---
**Author:** ![James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://rubytalk.org/u/James_Edward_Gray_II)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2006 22:15 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/16 "2006-06-06T22:15:33Z")
I'm 90% sure I just found a host. Give me a couple of weeks to iron out all the details... James Edward Gray II > **···** > > On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:46 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote: > > > On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:11 PM, James Edward Gray II wrote: > > > > > On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Hal Fulton wrote: > > > > > > > \*sigh\* Yes, I miss the gateway, too... > > > > > > > > I'd consider volunteering, but right now I'm > > > > up to my .asp in allocators. > > > > > > I've emailed Dennis to see if I can get the source. If I succeed there, I'll see if I can track down a new home for it... > > > > Dennis is sending me the source in the next couple of days. I'm putting the feelers out for a host, we will see if I get any bites... ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_Sutherland1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Tim\_Sutherland1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Tim_Sutherland1)\ **Post date:** [7 June 2006 10:28 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-weekly-news-29th-may-4th-june-2006/28011/17 "2006-06-07T10:28:45Z")
> Mauricio Fernandez wrote: > \> > \>\>I've noticed that the weekly news does not seem to include links for > \>\>most items. [...] > \>You can find all the links at > \> [http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html](http://www.rubyweeklynews.org/20060604.html) > \> > \>(the URL was at the top of the message) > \> > \>It seems the posting to ruby-talk is generated with something like > \> lynx -dump -nolist > > Ah so. Thanks. > > That seems to the most useful version to peruse. I use links' "Save Formatted Document" feature to generate the postings. I'd rather not have [1], [2] etc. references throughout the plain-text newsletter, since if you're wanting to go to URLs you'll be better of using the web version anyway. (The reason I include a plain-text version is so people can read the newsletter without the inconvenience of leaving their email or usenet client. I may add a note to the top of each posting that points out the link more clearly. It's too easy to miss at the moment.) > **···** > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:11:34AM +0900, James Britt wrote: > > > \>On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 03:29:39AM +0900, James Britt wrote: