You might also want to check out some of the folks who do User Mode Linux hosting. Basically, you get root access to your own virtual linux system and can install just about anything you want.
-- Matt
It's not what I know that counts, it's what I can remember in time to use.
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, T. Onoma wrote:
Please recommend Ruby-supporting web hosts. I am currently looking at the
following providers in this order of preference:
I've been using python-hosting.com and they have been great so far. Their primary focus is python, but they host ruby too.
It's run by programmers, so support is pretty quick and they actually know what you're talking about. They also don't seem to mind doing exoteric apache configs for you.
I have been a RouteRoute customer for a couple of years. They have been great. Extremely responsive to all of my requests.
Jamey
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Please recommend Ruby-supporting web hosts. I am currently looking at the
following providers in this order of preference:
My webpage is hosted at http://geekisp.com/\. Several months ago I have
asked if they have ruby installed, and the response was "now we have".
I like it a lot, since the admins are very helpful, and it is quite
cheap.
This is my webpage, which uses rublog (tweaked to be more standard
conform, and use CSS): http://martinus.geekisp.com/
Any info about these or others is greatly appreciated!
I've not run the gammit of Unix/Linux/BSD hosting solutions, and quite frankly there are A LOT to choose from. But of the two I've used, both of which did NOT offer Ruby/eRuby/mod_ruby, I've been able to successfully go in and install Ruby locally in my own account and run Ruby.
mod_ruby would not be available as an option without setup help from the company admins. But at Interland and LunarPages, at both of which I've used normal Linux/Apache shared hosting packages offering PHP, Perl (and ASP at LP) only, my own installation of ruby/eRuby has worked just fine. (I'm sure LunarPages would be interested in knowing how I accomplished this without shell access, but it wasn't hard at all with a little initial help from Perl.)
So you could try this approach. This has worked fabulously for me. Just don't expect any support from them of course.
As this question seems to crop up on the list every few months, I've started:
Please add to it as you find new hosts. Please add descriptions of experiences you've had with the hosts, if any. Feel free to classify them as "all-setup-for-you" versus "run your own virtual server and install everything yourself".
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On Aug 30, 2004, at 12:14 AM, T. Onoma wrote:
Please recommend Ruby-supporting web hosts. I am currently looking at the
following providers in this order of preference:
How funny! I took you suggestion and did a google search. Guess what showed
up? Jim Weirich’s blog, http://onestepback.org. Ha! Turns out he has a entry
on the subject of UMLx, b/c his blog's on one.
All well and good, except when I went to the site I got a "connection refused
error" Is that indicative of the current stability of UMLx ? Or, Jim, is
your blog down for other reasons?
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On Monday 30 August 2004 02:37 am, Matt Lawrence wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, T. Onoma wrote:
> Please recommend Ruby-supporting web hosts. I am currently looking at the
> following providers in this order of preference:
You might also want to check out some of the folks who do User Mode Linux
hosting. Basically, you get root access to your own virtual linux system
and can install just about anything you want.
If you are going to get a setup like this, you might
as well go secure and get a FreeBSD jail system. Don't
want to get cracked
---David Ross
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--- Matt Lawrence <matt@technoronin.com> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, T. Onoma wrote:
> Please recommend Ruby-supporting web hosts. I am
currently looking at the
> following providers in this order of preference:
You might also want to check out some of the folks
who do User Mode Linux
hosting. Basically, you get root access to your own
virtual linux system
and can install just about anything you want.
I use TextDrive (http://textdrive.com/\). They are not specifically a
Ruby host, but they do support it. And their administrators are top
notch. I had an issue with another host and they helped me resolve it
even though they didn't have to.
In terms of UML,
(Motivated by no personnel gain) I can strongly recommend:
I've had one up for 164 days without any problems (despite me). I would
say they are pretty stable. The problems you may experience are if
someone else is thrashing the hard-drive and you need quick data access
to the drive too. However this isn't different than for shared hosting
and I've never had problems with it.
It is a blast be able to try different linux distros with just a few
clicks.
-Daniel
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On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 12:17, T. Onoma wrote:
On Monday 30 August 2004 02:37 am, Matt Lawrence wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, T. Onoma wrote:
> > Please recommend Ruby-supporting web hosts. I am currently looking at the
> > following providers in this order of preference:
>
> You might also want to check out some of the folks who do User Mode Linux
> hosting. Basically, you get root access to your own virtual linux system
> and can install just about anything you want.
How funny! I took you suggestion and did a google search. Guess what showed
up? Jim Weirich’s blog, http://onestepback.org. Ha! Turns out he has a entry
on the subject of UMLx, b/c his blog's on one.
All well and good, except when I went to the site I got a "connection refused
error" Is that indicative of the current stability of UMLx ? Or, Jim, is
your blog down for other reasons?
All well and good, except when I went to the site I got a "connection refused error" Is that indicative of the current stability of UMLx ? Or, Jim, is your blog down for other reasons?
Well, his site is currently down (I noticed that when I ran a link check against my own web site). Anyay, I asked Jim about it and he respoended that "hopefully we will be back on the air soon."
You might also want to check out some of the folks
who do User Mode Linux hosting. Basically, you get root access to your own
virtual linux system and can install just about anything you want.
If you are going to get a setup like this, you might
as well go secure and get a FreeBSD jail system. Don't
want to get cracked
To what extent is UML less secure than a BSD jail?
You might also want to check out some of the folks who do User Mode
Linux hosting. Basically, you get root access to your own virtual linux
system and can install just about anything you want.
How funny! I took you suggestion and did a google search. Guess what
showed up? Jim Weirich's blog, http://onestepback.org. Ha! Turns out
he has a entry on the subject of UMLx, b/c his blog's on one.
All well and good, except when I went to the site I got a "connection
refused error" Is that indicative of the current stability of UMLx ?
Or, Jim, is your blog down for other reasons?
The site is back up now.
I think there is a corollary to Murphy's law that states when things _do_
go wrong, they will do so at the worst possible moment. So of course,
when someone points out that the site is a UML system is the when the
system decides to go down.
jimweirich.umlcoop.net is one of around twenty virtual linux systems
running on a single hardware box located somewhere in Cleveland, Ohio.
The members of the co-op pooled their money to purchase the server and to
pay for the used bandwidth. David Coulson maintains our UML setup keeps
the UML installation up to date. (David is a member of the co-op and is
active in the User Mode Linux community). The co-op members themselves
are responsible for maintaining their own virtual linux system.
The up side of this arrangment is that spreading the cost of the hardware
and bandwidth over 20 individuals keeps the cost fairly low. But is also
means that we don't have a 24x7 support staff with access to the hardware
for those rare times physical access to the machine is required. Those
are the trade-offs.
I can definitely recommend a UML based system. You have root access so
anything you want to do with the box is pretty much up to you. I am
hosting several domains, running a webserver, and using it for a mail
server. I'm also running an instance of instiki as a CMS for my daughter.
The advantage of the UML approach is that you can do anything you want.
The disadvantage is that it is _you_ who has to do everything. If you
would rather not spend time managing your own apache setup or your mail
service, then you would probably would be happier with a more packaged
service.
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On Monday 30 August 2004 02:37 am, Matt Lawrence wrote:
--
-- Jim Weirich jim@weirichhouse.org http://onestepback.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,
not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)
You might also want to check out some of the folks who do User Mode
Linux hosting. Basically, you get root access to your own virtual linux
system and can install just about anything you want.
How funny! I took you suggestion and did a google search. Guess what
showed up? Jim Weirich's blog, http://onestepback.org. Ha! Turns out
he has a entry on the subject of UMLx, b/c his blog's on one.
All well and good, except when I went to the site I got a "connection
refused error" Is that indicative of the current stability of UMLx ?
Or, Jim, is your blog down for other reasons?
The site is back up now.
I think there is a corollary to Murphy's law that states when things _do_
go wrong, they will do so at the worst possible moment. So of course,
when someone points out that the site is a UML system is the when the
system decides to go down.
jimweirich.umlcoop.net is one of around twenty virtual linux systems
running on a single hardware box located somewhere in Cleveland, Ohio.
The members of the co-op pooled their money to purchase the server and to
pay for the used bandwidth. David Coulson maintains our UML setup keeps
the UML installation up to date. (David is a member of the co-op and is
active in the User Mode Linux community). The co-op members themselves
are responsible for maintaining their own virtual linux system.
The up side of this arrangment is that spreading the cost of the hardware
and bandwidth over 20 individuals keeps the cost fairly low. But is also
means that we don't have a 24x7 support staff with access to the hardware
for those rare times physical access to the machine is required. Those
are the trade-offs.
I can definitely recommend a UML based system. You have root access so
anything you want to do with the box is pretty much up to you. I am
hosting several domains, running a webserver, and using it for a mail
server. I'm also running an instance of instiki as a CMS for my daughter.
The advantage of the UML approach is that you can do anything you want.
The disadvantage is that it is _you_ who has to do everything. If you
would rather not spend time managing your own apache setup or your mail
service, then you would probably would be happier with a more packaged
service.
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On Monday 30 August 2004 02:37 am, Matt Lawrence wrote:
--
-- Jim Weirich jim@weirichhouse.org http://onestepback.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,
not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)
I use rootr.net for my brother's band website. The hosting is good, the only complaint I have is that they never parse out there log file and at times the ssh session can be a little lagging.
Its a jail. Very safe and been developed really well.
It is another system. Jails can be made in any BSD.
You get root and you have to be assigned an ip. Its a
basic OS in OS. You have your own memory, process, and
hs space. Its very efficient without slowing down the
host OS. I use BSD systems all day. I mainly use them
on FreeBSD. BSD jails are supported by the
maintainers, not some seperate project, so you know
they have to focus on security and stability
--David Ross
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--- "T. Onoma" <transami@runbox.com> wrote:
On Monday 30 August 2004 10:26 am, David Ross wrote:
> If you are going to get a setup like this, you
might
> as well go secure and get a FreeBSD jail system.
Don't
> want to get cracked
hmm? How's that work with User Mode Linux? Or is
that another type of system
one can get for virtual hosting.
not to even start it. #1 BSD is more secure and can be
used as a good desktop or server. (*not: how you
install software doesn't judge it as a desktop)
#1 security
- Want proof? look how many fk'ing kernel exploits
there are.
- again? well take a look how stable the BSD base is
and how long its been around. Don't think time is
relavent? Well then if you don't think so you are not
very intelligent.
- take a look how many security exploits there are in
each BSD, then take a look how many exploits there not
not only in the linux kernel, but the base utils that
are generally installed with the BSDs. (*I am not
talking about third party software, every linux distro
is this way)
I was fed up with upgrading linux machines with
exploits. Plus I hang around people all day listening
to exploits that aren't even released public yet. You
better believe it. I use all the BSDs now, If I need
to run linux app that isnt for bsd, I use the
emulation layer, if theres a syscall not supported, I
add one.
Want to be a little bitch about it? okay fine to the
smart asses who keep saying "BSD is dying".
I care much more about security than any other issue.
Security is the upmost importance, not having knobs
and handles.
BSD has style(8), and a good hier(8) than linux.
Wow, lets just be idiotic and install everything in
/usr wow! now its difficult to tell the system and
third party packages apart! wee linux is fun!
--David Ross
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--- Andreas Schwarz <usenet@andreas-s.net> wrote:
David Ross wrote:
> --- Matt Lawrence <matt@technoronin.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, T. Onoma wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Please recommend Ruby-supporting web hosts. I am
>>
>>currently looking at the
>>
>>>following providers in this order of preference:
>>
>>You might also want to check out some of the folks
>>who do User Mode Linux
>>hosting. Basically, you get root access to your
own
>>virtual linux system
>>and can install just about anything you want.
>
>
> If you are going to get a setup like this, you
might
> as well go secure and get a FreeBSD jail system.
Don't
> want to get cracked
To what extent is UML less secure than a BSD jail?