# Ruby training?
**URL:** https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-training/33622
**Category:** ruby-talk
**Created:** [10 December 2006 19:24 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-training/33622 "2006-12-10T19:24:01Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@Michael\_T\_Halligan](https://rubytalk.org/u/Michael_T_Halligan)
#### Post date: [10 December 2006 19:24 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-training/33622/1 "2006-12-10T19:24:01Z")
I'd like to send a couple of my employees to a Ruby class, the ideal format would be a week-long intensive training session. Do any exist yet?
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### Author:  [@Eric\_I2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Eric_I2)
#### Post date: [11 December 2006 03:45 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-training/33622/2 "2006-12-11T03:45:04Z")
May I suggest [www.learnruby.com](http://www.learnruby.com). The class material (and instructor)
has gotten fantastic reviews. It's a hands-on class where the
participants write real code (not the "here's a program and make two
minor changes to it" variety). It's delivered on-site at a reasonable
price. And customization is available.
Disclaimer: I'm the instructor and I wrote the course.
One student took this class after taking Pragmatic Studio's Enterprise
Ruby Studio. She got virtually nothing out of their course and loved
this one. Here's what she said after the class, "The class is a
perfect introduction to Ruby. Eric is very clear which makes it easy
to follow and easy to learn. I now hope ALL my future development is
in Ruby!"
One difference between the courses appears to be how the topic of Ruby
itself is approached. As I teach the class, Ruby is the central focus
and we build up the concepts underlying Ruby step by step. They
describe their approach to Ruby as, "We'll cover the necessary parts of
Ruby as we go."
Eric
Michael T. Halligan wrote:
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>
> > I'd like to send a couple of my employees to a Ruby class, the ideal
> > format would be a week-long intensive training session. Do any exist yet?
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### Author:  [@Michael\_T\_Halligan](https://rubytalk.org/u/Michael_T_Halligan)
#### Post date: [11 December 2006 04:38 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-training/33622/3 "2006-12-11T04:38:47Z")
Michael T. Halligan wrote:
> I'd like to send a couple of my employees to a Ruby class, the ideal format would be a week-long intensive training session. Do any exist yet?
Also it would be very ideal of the training were either in Seattle or the SF Bay Area (where else would it be?)
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### Author:  [@Luciano\_Ramalho](https://rubytalk.org/u/Luciano_Ramalho)
#### Post date: [11 December 2006 04:02 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-training/33622/4 "2006-12-11T04:02:23Z")
Virtually nothing out of a 3-day workshop? It sounds like a slight
overstatement.
A marketing guru once said: never publicly acknowledge the existence
of your competitors, especially not if you are just going to bash
them.
Peace!
Luciano
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> On 12/11/06, rubytraining@gmail.com \ wrote:
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> > She got virtually nothing out of their course
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### Author:  [@Giles\_Bowkett](https://rubytalk.org/u/Giles_Bowkett)
#### Post date: [11 December 2006 04:27 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-training/33622/5 "2006-12-11T04:27:25Z")
> **[The Pragmatic Studio](https://pragmaticstudio.com/)**
>
> Premium video courses for software developers. Real apps. Real code. Really good stuff!
> **···**
>
> On 12/10/06, Luciano Ramalho \ wrote:
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> > On 12/11/06, rubytraining@gmail.com \ wrote:
> > \> She got virtually nothing out of their course
> >
> > Virtually nothing out of a 3-day workshop? It sounds like a slight
> > overstatement.
> >
> > A marketing guru once said: never publicly acknowledge the existence
> > of your competitors, especially not if you are just going to bash
> > them.
> >
> > Peace!
> >
> > Luciano
>
> --
> Giles Bowkett
> [http://www.gilesgoatboy.org](http://www.gilesgoatboy.org)
>
> > **[Giles Bowkett](http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com)**
> >
> > half-disavowed old blog. new blog at gilesbowkett.com
>
> [http://gilesgoatboy.blogspot.com](http://gilesgoatboy.blogspot.com)
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### Author:  [@Eric\_I2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Eric_I2)
#### Post date: [12 December 2006 22:15 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/ruby-training/33622/6 "2006-12-12T22:15:08Z")
Luciano Ramalho wrote:
> A marketing guru once said: never publicly acknowledge the existence
> of your competitors, especially not if you are just going to bash
> them.
In hindsight I think you're right, at least mostly. Given that the
Pragmatics are the 800 lbs gorilla in the arena, I think it's
appropriate to have mentioned them. However I should have pointed out
that the courses take different approaches, have different emphases,
and then invited people to compare the course descriptions and outlines
and left it at that.
So thanks, and give my regards to the anonymous marketing guru!
Eric