I did post it a while back though during the first Cygwin/One-Click Holy War
I wish I could credit the author of this code, but I don't remember where I
got it from.
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On 10/30/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
Interesting ... have you posted your benchmark code? Do you have the
setup to profile the Ruby interpreter running it? (I think everything is
available in CygWin, including the Ruby source).
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Robert W. Oliver II
President, OCS Solutions, Inc. - Web Hosting and Development
I'll take a look around for that site. I don't believe I have any
criteria. I do not perceive a day I'll be hosting my own apps, so the
server criteria is not important. I guess ease of use,for installing and
updating Ruby and Rails since that is the primary reason to run Linux.
I had a look over at the Gentoo site after reading this. The screenshots
showed Gnome. Having played around with a few live cd's recently I guess
I'm
leaning towards KDE. I'd assume running it under Gentoo is not a problem.
Stuart
Absolutely! In fact, the Gentoo LiveCD is Gnome only because of space
considerations, but the LiveDVD has both. I think your only reasonable
options are Kubuntu (the KDE flavor of Ubuntu) and Gentoo if you want to
stay close to the upstream releases of KDE, Ruby and Rails.
I've never done more than boot one of the early Ubuntu LiveCDs ... I
went down the Gentoo path from Debian before Ubuntu came out, and I'm
too entrenched (and too happy) to consider switching now.
By the way, the whole KDE/Korundum/Kommander/KDevelop/QTRuby/Quanta tool
chain works very well on Gentoo -- if you're willing to lock yourself
into that, you can probably turn out professional applications rather
quickly. The latest version of KDevelop, for example, has some Rails
tools built in.
Another nice thing about Gentoo is that they have a (bleeding edge and
finicky) tool set for building LiveCDs and LiveDVDs. The caution is that
they built that for their own release engineering use and not
necessarily for developers, but it can be made to work with a little effort.
1- Someone from the Rails list has made a project of Rails (and Ruby) LiveCD
using PC Linux I believe.
2- One attractive feature ( I think) of Ubuntu is you can use a usb flash
drive as the /home directory.
I imagine Gentoo can do the same thing ? Kind of nice and portable then.
Stuart
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On 10/30/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
Robert Oliver wrote:
> If that weren't enough, Gentoo has native ports of most Ruby gems, so
> emerge
> rmagick for example works nicely too. When you emerge rubygems, and
then
> run something like emerge rmagick, it will put a gem entry in the gem
list
> --local command, unlike Debian. In other words, Gentoo's emerge and
Ruby's
> gems don't fight each other like they do on most other distros.
Yeah ... and when a new release comes out, assuming they haven't already
done so, you can go into their Bugzilla and say "time to do a version
bump on ..." and they usually get to it if it's got a maintainer. And if
it doesn't have a maintainer, you probably want to be looking for
alternatives.
> Also, Gentoo's install procedure teaches you quite a bit about Linux.
> You'll know more about your system after doing it, and have a leg up on
> knowing how to use Linux right from the start.
One caution with that is that Gentoo administration knowledge doesn't
translate immediately into Red Hat/Fedora/CentOS or Debian/Ubuntu
administration knowledge. The Gentoo people have gone out of their way
to make things easy, as have the Red Hat and Debian people, but all the
config files are in different places on the three variants. I haven't
the foggiest idea, for example, how to configure vsftpd on a Red Hat or
Debian box, but I can do it in my sleep on Gentoo.
1- Someone from the Rails list has made a project of Rails (and Ruby)
LiveCD
using PC Linux I believe.
2- One attractive feature ( I think) of Ubuntu is you can use a usb flash
drive as the /home directory.
I imagine Gentoo can do the same thing ? Kind of nice and portable then.
Stuart
Yeah ... PC Linux is easy to make LiveCDs with. Almost any LiveCD Linux
will allow you to access a USB drive -- just mount it the way you'd
mount any other partition. Unfortunately, there are a couple of gotchas
with USB drives. They are almost always formatted FAT32, so almost any
OS can read them. You're better off formatting them with a Windows
machine -- sometimes when you format them on Linux, Windows has a
problem reading and writing them.
Absolutely! In fact, the Gentoo LiveCD is Gnome only because of space
considerations, but the LiveDVD has both. I think your only reasonable
options are Kubuntu (the KDE flavor of Ubuntu) and Gentoo if you want to
stay close to the upstream releases of KDE, Ruby and Rails.
For the sake of completeness, the only difference between Ubuntu,
Kubuntu, Xubuntu, or Whichevertheheckubuntu is what will show up when
you boot the Live CD, and what the installer will set up by default.
Once running off the repositories, there's no practical difference
between the flavours, and you can swap between flavours by replacing the
*ubuntu-desktop metapackage.
