# RAA suggestions

**URL:** <https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817>\
**Category:** ruby-talk\
**Created:** [28 December 2002 14:58 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817 "2002-12-28T14:58:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Gavin\_Sinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gavin\_Sinclair](https://rubytalk.org/u/Gavin_Sinclair)\
**Post date:** [28 December 2002 14:58 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/1 "2002-12-28T14:58:14Z")

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1. Reserve “what’s new” for genuinely new packages. Introduce a  
"what’s updated" section for updated packages. I believe brand new  
contributions should stay on the radar a bit longer.

2. Identify the author of packages in the summary section(s) mentioned  
above.

3. In the “Categories” section, list categories vertically rather than  
horizontally. Format it like a table with the following columns:  
Category Name, Description, # Subcategories, # Projects.

Just my 2c, with a nod to the guys who have worked on it to get it  
this far.

Cheers,  
Gavin

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**Author:** ![Berger\_Daniel2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Berger\_Daniel2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Berger_Daniel2)\
**Post date:** [2 January 2003 14:13 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/2 "2003-01-02T14:13:50Z")

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Gavin Sinclair wrote:

> 1. Reserve “what’s new” for genuinely new packages. Introduce a  
> “what’s updated” section for updated packages. I believe brand new  
> contributions should stay on the radar a bit longer.
> 
> 2. Identify the author of packages in the summary section(s) mentioned  
> above.
> 
> 3. In the “Categories” section, list categories vertically rather than  
> horizontally. Format it like a table with the following columns:  
> Category Name, Description, # Subcategories, # Projects.
> 
> Just my 2c, with a nod to the guys who have worked on it to get it  
> this far.
> 
> Cheers,  
> Gavin

I’d like to be able to search by release date. Over the holidays,  
I missed several releases - I’d like a way to see what was released while  
I was away. 🙂

Also, please remove the google search at the top and replace it with the  
RAA search.

Regards,

Dan

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**Author:** ![NAKAMURA\_Hiroshi2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@NAKAMURA\_Hiroshi2](https://rubytalk.org/u/NAKAMURA_Hiroshi2)\
**Post date:** [5 January 2003 02:04 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/3 "2003-01-05T02:04:27Z")

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Hi, Gavin,

Thank you for your comment!

> From: “Gavin Sinclair” [gsinclair@soyabean.com.au](mailto:gsinclair@soyabean.com.au)  
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 11:58 PM

> 1. Reserve “what’s new” for genuinely new packages. Introduce a  
> “what’s updated” section for updated packages. I believe brand new  
> contributions should stay on the radar a bit longer.

Former RAA did hold only mtime of each project. From RAA/2.2,  
it keeps also ctime in DB. Each section of what’s-new and  
what’s-updated will be introduced in the future.

> 1. Identify the author of packages in the summary section(s) mentioned  
> above.

There was the author column in the previous version but an user  
pointed out that the column was uncecessary. We want to keep  
projects table within 80 chars so adding the new column without  
removing some column is rather hard… Is this a good idea that  
replacing Version column with Author? How do users think?

> 1. In the “Categories” section, list categories vertically rather than  
> horizontally. Format it like a table with the following columns:  
> Category Name, Description, # Subcategories, # Projects.

I seem to fail to understand what you said. Would you please  
explain the section you said here. Did you suggest adding the  
new page which lists all projects sorted by category, rather than  
extending current drill-down category listing?

Regards,  
// NaHi

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**Author:** ![U.Nakamura1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f0a364/32.png) [@U.Nakamura1](https://rubytalk.org/u/U.Nakamura1)\
**Post date:** [4 January 2003 02:49 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/4 "2003-01-04T02:49:51Z")

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Hello,

At Jan.02,2003 23:13:50, [djberge@qwest.com](mailto:djberge@qwest.com) wrote on  
“Re: RAA suggestions” :

> I’d like to be able to search by release date. Over the holidays,  
> I missed several releases - I’d like a way to see what was released while  
> I was away. 🙂

Yeah, we RAA development team recognize your request.  
We are planning to make RAA search more usable.  
It’s in our To-Do list.  
Please wait…

> Also, please remove the google search at the top and replace it with the  
> RAA search.

Now we have removed the google search (to adjust design to new  
Ruby Home Page).  
Are you satisfied? 🙂

Regards,

> **···**
>
> –  
> U.Nakamura [usa@osb.att.ne.jp](mailto:usa@osb.att.ne.jp)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Clarke2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tom\_Clarke2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Tom_Clarke2)\
**Post date:** [4 January 2003 03:30 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/5 "2003-01-04T03:30:03Z")

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I have another request. Would it be possible to provide a scriptable  
interface that allows the changing of the download link for a project.  
This would allow me to more completely automate the uploading of new  
versions of my projects. Perhaps something in the query string:  
/raa/?action=setdownload&download=[http://www.myserver.com/proj0.0.7.tgz](http://www.myserver.com/proj0.0.7.tgz)

Possible?

Thanks hopefully.

-Tom

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> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:49:51AM +0900, U.Nakamura wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, we RAA development team recognize your request.  
> > We are planning to make RAA search more usable.  
> > It’s in our To-Do list.  
> > Please wait…

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**Author:** ![Daniel\_Berger3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c68b51/32.png) [@Daniel\_Berger3](https://rubytalk.org/u/Daniel_Berger3)\
**Post date:** [4 January 2003 17:16 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/6 "2003-01-04T17:16:00Z")

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“U.Nakamura” [usa@osb.att.ne.jp](mailto:usa@osb.att.ne.jp) wrote in message news:[20030104114135.5C8A.USA@osb.att.ne.jp](mailto:20030104114135.5C8A.USA@osb.att.ne.jp)…

> Hello,
> 
> At Jan.02,2003 23:13:50, [djberge@qwest.com](mailto:djberge@qwest.com) wrote on  
> “Re: RAA suggestions” :
> 
> > I’d like to be able to search by release date. Over the holidays,  
> > I missed several releases - I’d like a way to see what was released while  
> > I was away. 🙂
> 
> Yeah, we RAA development team recognize your request.  
> We are planning to make RAA search more usable.  
> It’s in our To-Do list.  
> Please wait…
> 
> > Also, please remove the google search at the top and replace it with the  
> > RAA search.
> 
> Now we have removed the google search (to adjust design to new  
> Ruby Home Page).  
> Are you satisfied? 🙂

Thanks! Looks nice.

I actually meant to suggest replacing the google search with the raa  
search form near the bottom? Any chance of moving that near the top?

Regards,

Dan

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**Author:** ![U.Nakamura1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f0a364/32.png) [@U.Nakamura1](https://rubytalk.org/u/U.Nakamura1)\
**Post date:** [4 January 2003 18:00 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/7 "2003-01-04T18:00:34Z")

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Hello.

At Jan.04,2003 12:30:03, [tom@u2i.com](mailto:tom@u2i.com) wrote on  
“Re: RAA suggestions” :

> I have another request. Would it be possible to provide a scriptable  
> interface that allows the changing of the download link for a project.  
> This would allow me to more completely automate the uploading of new  
> versions of my projects. Perhaps something in the query string:  
> /raa/?action=setdownload&download=[http://www.myserver.com/proj0.0.7.tgz](http://www.myserver.com/proj0.0.7.tgz)
> 
> Possible?

Hmm, I’ve just written ‘raa-update’ library.  
[http://www.ruby-lang.org/raa/list.rhtml?name=raa-update](http://www.ruby-lang.org/raa/list.rhtml?name=raa-update)

It’s very simple implementation to update RAA entry via HTTP.  
Does this help you?

Regards,

> **···**
>
> –  
> U.Nakamura [usa@osb.att.ne.jp](mailto:usa@osb.att.ne.jp)

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**Author:** ![NAKAMURA\_Hiroshi2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@NAKAMURA\_Hiroshi2](https://rubytalk.org/u/NAKAMURA_Hiroshi2)\
**Post date:** [5 January 2003 02:04 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/8 "2003-01-05T02:04:28Z")

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Hi, Tom,

Thank you for your comments.

> From: “Tom Clarke” [tom@u2i.com](mailto:tom@u2i.com)  
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:30 PM

> I have another request. Would it be possible to provide a scriptable  
> interface that allows the changing of the download link for a project.  
> This would allow me to more completely automate the uploading of new  
> versions of my projects. Perhaps something in the query string:  
> /raa/?action=setdownload&download=[http://www.myserver.com/proj0.0.7.tgz](http://www.myserver.com/proj0.0.7.tgz)
> 
> Possible?

Possible via SOAP, hopefully in the near future.  
Current interface is read-only…

I’m wondering how to authorize the owner of each project.

Regards,  
// NaHi

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**Author:** ![NAKAMURA\_Hiroshi1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/fbc32d/32.png) [@NAKAMURA\_Hiroshi1](https://rubytalk.org/u/NAKAMURA_Hiroshi1)\
**Post date:** [6 January 2003 07:53 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/9 "2003-01-06T07:53:16Z")

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Hi,

> From: “Daniel Berger” [djberg96@hotmail.com](mailto:djberg96@hotmail.com)  
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:16 AM

> I actually meant to suggest replacing the google search with the raa  
> search form near the bottom?

I see. We discussed moving the search box to the top right  
but abandaned it. We decided that we only follow the design  
of [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org) this time.

> Any chance of moving that near the top?

Yes, in the future.  
Folks, do you like the box at the top right, too?

Thank you for your comment,  
// NaHi

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Clarke2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tom\_Clarke2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Tom_Clarke2)\
**Post date:** [4 January 2003 20:55 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/10 "2003-01-04T20:55:52Z")

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Looks excellent, though it seems that the archive was gzipped twice  
over.

-Tom

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> On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 03:00:34AM +0900, U.Nakamura wrote:
> 
> > Hmm, I’ve just written ‘raa-update’ library.  
> > [http://www.ruby-lang.org/raa/list.rhtml?name=raa-update](http://www.ruby-lang.org/raa/list.rhtml?name=raa-update)
> > 
> > It’s very simple implementation to update RAA entry via HTTP.  
> > Does this help you?

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**Author:** ![Holden\_Glova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/57b2e6/32.png) [@Holden\_Glova](https://rubytalk.org/u/Holden_Glova)\
**Post date:** [6 January 2003 08:03 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/11 "2003-01-06T08:03:13Z")

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Hi NaHi,

I do not know about the top right, but I definately would like it at the top,  
maybe on the top left in with the nav as it is currently but just higher.

Thanks for all your great work RAA re-development team, I think it looks  
great.

* * *

Signed,  
Holden Glova

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> On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:53, NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > From: “Daniel Berger” [djberg96@hotmail.com](mailto:djberg96@hotmail.com)  
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:16 AM
> > > 
> > > I actually meant to suggest replacing the google search with the raa  
> > > search form near the bottom?
> > 
> > I see. We discussed moving the search box to the top right  
> > but abandaned it. We decided that we only follow the design  
> > of [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org) this time.
> > 
> > > Any chance of moving that near the top?
> > 
> > Yes, in the future.  
> > Folks, do you like the box at the top right, too?
> > 
> > Thank you for your comment,  
> > // NaHi

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**Author:** ![U.Nakamura1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f0a364/32.png) [@U.Nakamura1](https://rubytalk.org/u/U.Nakamura1)\
**Post date:** [5 January 2003 07:27 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/12 "2003-01-05T07:27:15Z")

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Hello.

At Jan.05,2003 05:55:52, [tom@u2i.com](mailto:tom@u2i.com) wrote on  
“Re: RAA suggestions” :

> **···**
>
> > On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 03:00:34AM +0900, U.Nakamura wrote:
> > 
> > > Hmm, I’ve just written ‘raa-update’ library.  
> > > [http://www.ruby-lang.org/raa/list.rhtml?name=raa-update](http://www.ruby-lang.org/raa/list.rhtml?name=raa-update)
> > > 
> > > It’s very simple implementation to update RAA entry via HTTP.  
> > > Does this help you?
> > 
> > Looks excellent, though it seems that the archive was gzipped twice  
> > over.
> 
> Sorry, I made a mistake in creating the archive.
> 
> ## Thank you.
> 
> U.Nakamura [usa@osb.att.ne.jp](mailto:usa@osb.att.ne.jp)

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**Author:** ![NAKAMURA\_Hiroshi1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/fbc32d/32.png) [@NAKAMURA\_Hiroshi1](https://rubytalk.org/u/NAKAMURA_Hiroshi1)\
**Post date:** [6 January 2003 09:28 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/13 "2003-01-06T09:28:18Z")

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Hi, Holden,

> From: “Holden Glova” [dsafari@paradise.net.nz](mailto:dsafari@paradise.net.nz)  
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:03 PM

> > > I actually meant to suggest replacing the google search with the raa  
> > > search form near the bottom?
> > 
> > I see. We discussed moving the search box to the top right  
> > but abandaned it. We decided that we only follow the design  
> > of [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org) this time.
> > 
> > > Any chance of moving that near the top?
> > 
> > Yes, in the future.  
> > Folks, do you like the box at the top right, too?

> I do not know about the top right, but I definately would like it at the top,  
> maybe on the top left in with the nav as it is currently but just higher.

I seemed not to be able to understand what you meant…  
I wish much that I could run away from this language barrier  
around me. :^(

Are you talking about either [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org) or RAA, or both?  
If it regards to [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org), I’ll talk to [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org)  
development team. If it regards to RAA, what is nav here?  
Logo? (title.gif)

> Thanks for all your great work RAA re-development team, I think it looks  
> great.

Great to hear. Thanks.

Regards,  
// NaHi

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**Author:** ![Holden\_Glova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/57b2e6/32.png) [@Holden\_Glova](https://rubytalk.org/u/Holden_Glova)\
**Post date:** [6 January 2003 09:48 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/14 "2003-01-06T09:48:28Z")

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So sorry Nahi! I got confused about what is RAA and what is [ruby-lang.org](http://ruby-lang.org), for  
some reason I tend to think of them as the same thing, but as you have  
pointed out - this is not the case. I was actually talking about the  
[ruby-lang.org](http://ruby-lang.org) site. Also in regard to [ruby-lang.org](http://ruby-lang.org) site - should any of the  
links that take people off the site have a target=“\_blank” ? This is mainly  
in concern to the nav on the left, but possibly should apply across the board  
for the entire site. Just a thought.

Now to answer your original question NaHi. I vote for the search on the top  
right too.

* * *

Signed,  
Holden Glova

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>
> On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:28, NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:
> 
> > Hi, Holden,
> > 
> > > From: “Holden Glova” [dsafari@paradise.net.nz](mailto:dsafari@paradise.net.nz)  
> > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:03 PM
> > > 
> > > > > I actually meant to suggest replacing the google search with the raa  
> > > > > search form near the bottom?
> > > > 
> > > > I see. We discussed moving the search box to the top right  
> > > > but abandaned it. We decided that we only follow the design  
> > > > of [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org) this time.
> > > > 
> > > > > Any chance of moving that near the top?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, in the future.  
> > > > Folks, do you like the box at the top right, too?
> > > 
> > > I do not know about the top right, but I definately would like it at the  
> > > top, maybe on the top left in with the nav as it is currently but just  
> > > higher.
> > 
> > I seemed not to be able to understand what you meant…  
> > I wish much that I could run away from this language barrier  
> > around me. :^(
> > 
> > Are you talking about either [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org) or RAA, or both?  
> > If it regards to [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org), I’ll talk to [www.ruby-lang.org](http://www.ruby-lang.org)  
> > development team. If it regards to RAA, what is nav here?  
> > Logo? (title.gif)
> > 
> > > Thanks for all your great work RAA re-development team, I think it looks  
> > > great.
> > 
> > Great to hear. Thanks.
> > 
> > Regards,  
> > // NaHi

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**Author:** ![Tim\_Bates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@Tim\_Bates](https://rubytalk.org/u/Tim_Bates)\
**Post date:** [6 January 2003 10:01 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/raa-suggestions/3817/15 "2003-01-06T10:01:04Z")

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Nononono! This number 2 on the top ten things NOT to do - don’t ever break the  
user’s back button. If people want it in a new window, they can right click  
and choose “new window”, but don’t ever do it for them! See  
[http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990530.html](http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990530.html) for more.

Tim Bates

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>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:18 pm, Holden Glova wrote:
> 
> > Also in regard to [ruby-lang.org](http://ruby-lang.org) site - should any of  
> > the links that take people off the site have a target=“\_blank” ? This is  
> > mainly in concern to the nav on the left, but possibly should apply across  
> > the board for the entire site. Just a thought.
> 
> –  
> tim@bates.id.au
