# OSCON Ruby presentations? **URL:** \ **Category:** ruby-talk\ **Created:** [28 January 2003 12:51 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362 "2003-01-28T12:51:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chad\_Fowler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@Chad\_Fowler](https://rubytalk.org/u/Chad_Fowler)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2003 12:51 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/1 "2003-01-28T12:51:51Z")
Hello, all. I was just wondering with the deadline coming up how many have submitted proposals for talks/tutorials at OSCON? It would be sad to be under-represented. I’m still debating (partially based on where I’ll be living in July) trying to do one. Chad ---
**Author:** ![Ptkwt1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/85e7bf/32.png) [@Ptkwt1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Ptkwt1)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2003 18:02 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/2 "2003-01-28T18:02:37Z")
In article [Pine.LNX.4.44.0301280753170.11338-100000@ns1.chadfowler.com](mailto:Pine.LNX.4.44.0301280753170.11338-100000@ns1.chadfowler.com), > **···** > > Chad Fowler [chad@chadfowler.com](mailto:chad@chadfowler.com) wrote: > > > Hello, all. I was just wondering with the deadline coming up how many > > have submitted proposals for talks/tutorials at OSCON? It would be sad to > > be under-represented. I’m still debating (partially based on where I’ll > > be living in July) trying to do one. > > I submitted a couple of proposals: > “Ruby for Perl Programmers” > “Using Swig for mixed language development” > > The second one isn’t directly Ruby related, but if it’s accepted I plan to > use Ruby in the examples. > > ## Phil > > “Or perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?” > Amy Weiss (accusing [theregister.co.uk](http://theregister.co.uk) of engaging in ‘tabloid journalism’) > Senior VP, Communications > Recording Industry Association of America ---
**Author:** ![Yukihiro\_Matsumoto2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Yukihiro\_Matsumoto2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yukihiro_Matsumoto2)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2003 22:46 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/3 "2003-01-28T22:46:25Z")
Hello. Do you want to hear my talk at OSCON? The points are - my English is really poor, so my talk might disappoint you. - two visits are not affordable for my company, [netlab.jp](http://netlab.jp), who paid RubyConf travel expense last two years. Options are ``` a) have RubyConf around OSCON b) have RubyConf in OSCON c) find sponsor to buy me tickets ``` Any ideas? matz. ---
**Author:** ![Pat\_Eyler1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@Pat\_Eyler1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Pat_Eyler1)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2003 22:58 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/4 "2003-01-28T22:58:30Z")
> Hello. > > Do you want to hear my talk at OSCON? YES!!! > The points are > > - my English is really poor, so my talk might disappoint you. matz, your english is fine. > - two visits are not affordable for my company, netlab.jp, who paid > RubyConf travel expense last two years. This _is_ a problem. > Options are > > ``` > a) have RubyConf around OSCON > b) have RubyConf in OSCON > > ``` Living in Seattle, I’d be really willing to do either of these. An added bonus is that we’re likely to boost the OSCON Ruby attendance (meaning a Ruby track next year too), and liable to get added RubyConf attendance from interested OSCON attendees. > ``` > c) find sponsor to buy me tickets > > ``` If it comes down to this, what about doing something like the PerlFoundation and collecting contributions from the Ruby Community to fund your trip? -pate > **···** > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote: > > > Any ideas? > > matz. ---
**Author:** ![Ptkwt1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/85e7bf/32.png) [@Ptkwt1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Ptkwt1)\ **Post date:** [29 January 2003 02:24 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/5 "2003-01-29T02:24:23Z")
In article [1043760501.253419.25604.nullmailer@picachu.netlab.jp](mailto:1043760501.253419.25604.nullmailer@picachu.netlab.jp), > Hello. > > Do you want to hear my talk at OSCON? Sure. > The points are > > - my English is really poor, so my talk might disappoint you. We were able to understand you just fine. > - two visits are not affordable for my company, netlab.jp, who paid > RubyConf travel expense last two years. > > Options are > > a) have RubyConf around OSCON > b) have RubyConf in OSCON This is a very interesting idea. As Pat mentioned this would boost Ruby attendence at OSCON - if people also went to OSCON - and that would increase Ruby’s visibility there. Python holds their annual meeting in conjunction with OSCON. Is there enough time to put together a RubyConf by July? I live in Portland, so I guess I’ve got alterior motives 😉 Phil > **···** > > ## Yukihiro Matsumoto [matz@ruby-lang.org](mailto:matz@ruby-lang.org) wrote: > > “Or perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?” > Amy Weiss (accusing [theregister.co.uk](http://theregister.co.uk) of engaging in ‘tabloid journalism’) > Senior VP, Communications > Recording Industry Association of America ---
**Author:** ![Piers\_Harding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Piers\_Harding](https://rubytalk.org/u/Piers_Harding)\ **Post date:** [29 January 2003 06:35 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/6 "2003-01-29T06:35:28Z")
I think people would go a long wa yto hear you talk 🙂 I regularily attend OSCON coming form the UK, and all things being equal, will be presenting on Open Source connectivity with SAP which includes Ruby. So I would love to see a Ruby track operating at the same time. I also think that there is a lot of interest building in the Perl community about Ruby, and OSCON is after all the Perl conference as well - having a track there would be a great boost and exposure for Ruby - an opportunity not to miss. The guy to talk to is Nathan Talkington regarding a Ruby track, and the best way to O’Reillys’ attention is to start making submissions which you can do right here: [Conferences - O'Reilly Media](http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/create/e_sess) - closing date is 15th of Feb. Cheers. > **···** > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:46:25AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > Do you want to hear my talk at OSCON? > > > > The points are > > > > - my English is really poor, so my talk might disappoint you. > > > > - two visits are not affordable for my company, netlab.jp, who paid > > RubyConf travel expense last two years. > > > > Options are > > > > ``` > > a) have RubyConf around OSCON > > b) have RubyConf in OSCON > > c) find sponsor to buy me tickets > > > > ``` > > > > Any ideas? > > matz. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Alan\_Black1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@David\_Alan\_Black1](https://rubytalk.org/u/David_Alan_Black1)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2003 23:44 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/7 "2003-01-28T23:44:13Z")
Hi – > > Options are > > > > ``` > > a) have RubyConf around OSCON > > b) have RubyConf in OSCON > > > > ``` > > Living in Seattle, I’d be really willing to do either of these. An added > bonus is that we’re likely to boost the OSCON Ruby attendance (meaning a > Ruby track next year too), and liable to get added RubyConf attendance > from interested OSCON attendees. > > > ``` > > c) find sponsor to buy me tickets > > > > ``` > > If it comes down to this, what about doing something like the > PerlFoundation and collecting contributions from the Ruby Community to > fund your trip? c) is definitely the best of the three possibilities. July is awfully soon to have the next RubyConf… and Portland is awfully close to Seattle (I’d really like to spread them out geographically, at least within the U.S.). Also, I’m not sure that RubyConf would boost OSCON Ruby attendance much, at least if I’m reading last year’s OSCON fees correctly and if this year’s are anything like last year’s ($895 for 3-day conference attendance, or $400 per day for 1 or 2). As for donations: the umbrella non-profit organization for the conference, Ruby Central, Inc., is designed as a clearinghouse for this kind of thing, except that it doesn’t yet have tax-exempt status (so donations are not tax deductible). But that’s being looked into. David > **···** > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Pat Eyler wrote: > > – > David Alan Black > home: [dblack@candle.superlink.net](mailto:dblack@candle.superlink.net) > work: blackdav@shu.edu > Web: [http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav](http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav) ---
**Author:** ![Simon\_Cozens1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Simon\_Cozens1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Simon_Cozens1)\ **Post date:** [29 January 2003 10:25 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/8 "2003-01-29T10:25:18Z")
Piers Harding [piers@ompa.net](mailto:piers@ompa.net) writes: > The guy to talk to is Nathan Talkington regarding a Ruby track, and the > best way to O’Reillys’ attention is to start making submissions which you > can do right here: I’m talking with Gnat on Friday and will see what I can do; I’m aiming at putting a couple of Ruby talks in. > **···** > > – > Henry, I’m a Regent Master of the Ancient and Venerable House of Congregation. > Being eccentrically dull is practically my job description. > - Jonathan Jones ---
**Author:** ![Pat\_Eyler1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@Pat\_Eyler1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Pat_Eyler1)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2003 23:56 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/9 "2003-01-28T23:56:59Z")
> Hi – Hi David, > > > Options are > > > > > > ``` > > > a) have RubyConf around OSCON > > > b) have RubyConf in OSCON > > > > > > ``` > > > > Living in Seattle, I’d be really willing to do either of these. An added > > bonus is that we’re likely to boost the OSCON Ruby attendance (meaning a > > Ruby track next year too), and liable to get added RubyConf attendance > > from interested OSCON attendees. > > > > > ``` > > > c) find sponsor to buy me tickets > > > > > > ``` > > > > If it comes down to this, what about doing something like the > > PerlFoundation and collecting contributions from the Ruby Community to > > fund your trip? > > c) is definitely the best of the three possibilities. July is awfully > soon to have the next RubyConf… and Portland is awfully close to > Seattle (I’d really like to spread them out geographically, at least > within the U.S.). Also, I’m not sure that RubyConf would boost OSCON > Ruby attendance much, at least if I’m reading last year’s OSCON fees > correctly and if this year’s are anything like last year’s ($895 for > 3-day conference attendance, or $400 per day for 1 or 2). You’re probably right, but it can’t hurt to dream about another RubyConf in the Pacific Northwest. Heck, we could even rotate between Vancouver, Seattle, and Portland. ;^) > As for donations: the umbrella non-profit organization for the > conference, Ruby Central, Inc., is designed as a clearinghouse for > this kind of thing, except that it doesn’t yet have tax-exempt status > (so donations are not tax deductible). But that’s being looked into. This is great news. Maybe we should look into setting up a couple of funds withing Ruby Central, Inc. It would be nice to sponsor matz et al for trips to OSCON, RubyConf, etc. It might also be nice to sponsor work on Ruby a la Damian Conway, Dan Sugalski, and Larry Wall’s efforts on Perl 6. -pate > **···** > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 [dblack@candle.superlink.net](mailto:dblack@candle.superlink.net) wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Pat Eyler wrote: > > > David > > > > – > > David Alan Black > > home: [dblack@candle.superlink.net](mailto:dblack@candle.superlink.net) > > work: blackdav@shu.edu > > Web: [http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav](http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Fowler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@Chad\_Fowler](https://rubytalk.org/u/Chad_Fowler)\ **Post date:** [29 January 2003 06:30 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/10 "2003-01-29T06:30:17Z")
> Hi – > > > > Options are > > > > > > ``` > > > a) have RubyConf around OSCON > > > b) have RubyConf in OSCON > > > > > > ``` > > > > Living in Seattle, I’d be really willing to do either of these. An added > > bonus is that we’re likely to boost the OSCON Ruby attendance (meaning a > > Ruby track next year too), and liable to get added RubyConf attendance > > from interested OSCON attendees. > > > > > ``` > > > c) find sponsor to buy me tickets > > > > > > ``` > > > > If it comes down to this, what about doing something like the > > PerlFoundation and collecting contributions from the Ruby Community to > > fund your trip? > > c) is definitely the best of the three possibilities. July is awfully > soon to have the next RubyConf… and Portland is awfully close to > Seattle (I’d really like to spread them out geographically, at least > within the U.S.). Also, I’m not sure that RubyConf would boost OSCON > Ruby attendance much, at least if I’m reading last year’s OSCON fees > correctly and if this year’s are anything like last year’s ($895 for > 3-day conference attendance, or $400 per day for 1 or 2). Agreed here. Especially in terms of geographic spread. We’ve done east coast and then west coast in the two conferences respectively so far. > As for donations: the umbrella non-profit organization for the > conference, Ruby Central, Inc., is designed as a clearinghouse for > this kind of thing, except that it doesn’t yet have tax-exempt status > (so donations are not tax deductible). But that’s being looked into. Matz, if you were to do a tutorial, O’Reilly would cover a decent amount of your travel expenses. That might be the best way to get to OSCON. I would suggest that if you can get to OSCON, we should find a way to sponsor your RubyConf trip. We can probably do that with a friendly loan from someone who’s got the cash (I think we can find that) and then pay it back with conference attendance fees. Chad > **···** > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 [dblack@candle.superlink.net](mailto:dblack@candle.superlink.net) wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Pat Eyler wrote: ---
**Author:** ![Yukihiro\_Matsumoto2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Yukihiro\_Matsumoto2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yukihiro_Matsumoto2)\ **Post date:** [14 February 2003 18:15 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/oscon-ruby-presentations/4362/11 "2003-02-14T18:15:04Z")
Hi, > **···** > > In message “Re: OSCON Ruby presentations?” on 03/01/29, Chad Fowler [chad@chadfowler.com](mailto:chad@chadfowler.com) writes: > > > Matz, if you were to do a tutorial, O’Reilly would cover a decent amount > > of your travel expenses. That might be the best way to get to OSCON. I > > would suggest that if you can get to OSCON, we should find a way to > > sponsor your RubyConf trip. We can probably do that with a friendly loan > > from someone who’s got the cash (I think we can find that) and then pay it > > back with conference attendance fees. > > Since half day or full day tutorial, which enable travel expense > payment, is too hard for me, I’m going to submit 45 minute > presentation. Unless somebody ask me about specific subject he wants > to hear, I’m going to submit something like “The Power and Philosophy > of Ruby”. > > ``` > matz. > > ```