# Missing messages

**URL:** <https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980>\
**Category:** ruby-talk\
**Created:** [1 March 2012 22:16 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980 "2012-03-01T22:16:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Eric\_Christopherson](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/rubytalk.org/eric_christopherson/32/1849_2.png) [@Eric\_Christopherson](https://rubytalk.org/u/Eric_Christopherson)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2012 22:16 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980/1 "2012-03-01T22:16:02Z")

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I've been missing a lot of messages in my Gmail the past few days that  
I see posted on ruby-forum. I notified [ruby-talk-admin@ruby-lang.org](mailto:ruby-talk-admin@ruby-lang.org)  
yesterday, but haven't heard back.

Is anyone else having this problem?

Is it Gmail, or ruby-talk, or the relay, or something else?

Is there someone else I should ask about getting it fixed?

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Davis1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/rubytalk.org/ryan_davis1/32/1848_2.png) [@Ryan\_Davis1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Ryan_Davis1)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2012 22:56 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980/2 "2012-03-01T22:56:48Z")

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YUP! I'm seeing a drastic reduction in posts, but honestly, I've kind of enjoyed it. 😉

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> On Mar 1, 2012, at 14:16 , Eric Christopherson wrote:
> 
> > I've been missing a lot of messages in my Gmail the past few days that  
> > I see posted on ruby-forum. I notified ruby-talk-admin@ruby-lang.org  
> > yesterday, but haven't heard back.
> > 
> > Is anyone else having this problem?
> > 
> > Is it Gmail, or ruby-talk, or the relay, or something else?
> > 
> > Is there someone else I should ask about getting it fixed?

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**Author:** ![Robert\_K1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/rubytalk.org/robert_k1/32/1830_2.png) [@Robert\_K1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Robert_K1)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2012 10:10 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980/3 "2012-03-02T10:10:26Z")

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I have seen quite a few threads where at least the initial posting was  
missing (easily visible because the subject in the overview starts  
with "Re:"). I didn't bother to check in more detail yet but there  
are quite of few of these "headless" threads.

Kind regards

robert

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> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Eric Christopherson \<echristopherson@gmail.com\> wrote:
> 
> > I've been missing a lot of messages in my Gmail the past few days that  
> > I see posted on ruby-forum. I notified ruby-talk-admin@ruby-lang.org  
> > yesterday, but haven't heard back.
> > 
> > Is anyone else having this problem?
> > 
> > Is it Gmail, or ruby-talk, or the relay, or something else?
> > 
> > Is there someone else I should ask about getting it fixed?
> 
> --  
> remember.guy do |as, often| as.you\_can - without end  
> [http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/](http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/)

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**Author:** ![Kenichi\_Kamiya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecccb3/32.png) [@Kenichi\_Kamiya](https://rubytalk.org/u/Kenichi_Kamiya)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2012 17:20 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980/4 "2012-03-02T17:20:24Z")

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Hi, Eric.

Thank you for letting me know.  
And sorry for the mess, my "Re:" posts are ugly. 😢

This problem was explained by eban's diary.(written in Japanese)  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[Just another Ruby porter, 2012-3-a](http://jarp.does.notwork.org/diary/201203a.html#201203012)  
But, I can't translate with accuracy.

In my understanding below.

1.  
Ruby-Talk has been strict,  
because to be against spam of recent.  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[Who Administrates this list and how can the community help save this list from the noise - Ruby - Ruby-Forum](http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/3629754)  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[Just another Ruby porter, 2012-2-b](http://jarp.does.notwork.org/diary/201202b.html#201202121)

2.  
The cause is a gap of registered email addresses, between ruby-talk  
and ruby-forum.

3.  
Now, we are hoping solution by the ruby-forum side.

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> 2012/3/2 Eric Christopherson \<echristopherson@gmail.com\>:
> 
> > I've been missing a lot of messages in my Gmail the past few days that  
> > I see posted on ruby-forum. I notified ruby-talk-admin@ruby-lang.org  
> > yesterday, but haven't heard back.
> > 
> > Is anyone else having this problem?
> > 
> > Is it Gmail, or ruby-talk, or the relay, or something else?
> > 
> > Is there someone else I should ask about getting it fixed?

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**Author:** ![11142](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/e0b2c6/32.png) [@11142](https://rubytalk.org/u/11142)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2012 10:35 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980/5 "2012-03-02T10:35:55Z")

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I have similar issues as Robert.

-- Matma Rex

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**Author:** ![Eric\_Christopherson](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/rubytalk.org/eric_christopherson/32/1849_2.png) [@Eric\_Christopherson](https://rubytalk.org/u/Eric_Christopherson)\
**Post date:** [7 March 2012 22:55 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980/6 "2012-03-07T22:55:03Z")

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Is any progress being made? Does anyone have an idea of how long it  
will take before the two mediums reflect each other's contents (if  
ever)?

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> > 2012/3/2 Eric Christopherson \<echristopherson@gmail.com\>:
> > 
> > > I've been missing a lot of messages in my Gmail the past few days that  
> > > I see posted on ruby-forum. I notified ruby-talk-admin@ruby-lang.org  
> > > yesterday, but haven't heard back.
> > > 
> > > Is anyone else having this problem?
> > > 
> > > Is it Gmail, or ruby-talk, or the relay, or something else?
> > > 
> > > Is there someone else I should ask about getting it fixed?
> 
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Kenichi Kamiya \<kachick1@gmail.com\> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, Eric.
> > 
> > Thank you for letting me know.  
> > And sorry for the mess, my "Re:" posts are ugly. 😢
> > 
> > This problem was explained by eban's diary.(written in Japanese)  
> > [Just another Ruby porter, 2012-3-a](http://jarp.does.notwork.org/diary/201203a.html#201203012)  
> > But, I can't translate with accuracy.
> > 
> > In my understanding below.
> > 
> > 1.  
> > Ruby-Talk has been strict,  
> > because to be against spam of recent.  
> > [Who Administrates this list and how can the community help save this list from the noise - Ruby - Ruby-Forum](http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/3629754)  
> > [Just another Ruby porter, 2012-2-b](http://jarp.does.notwork.org/diary/201202b.html#201202121)
> > 
> > 2.  
> > The cause is a gap of registered email addresses, between ruby-talk  
> > and ruby-forum.
> > 
> > 3.  
> > Now, we are hoping solution by the ruby-forum side.

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Davis1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/rubytalk.org/ryan_davis1/32/1848_2.png) [@Ryan\_Davis1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Ryan_Davis1)\
**Post date:** [8 March 2012 23:47 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980/7 "2012-03-08T23:47:43Z")

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I haven't seen anything suggesting that someone has contacted the maintainer of ruby-forum... Maybe they have but most of the blame here seems to be pointed towards the ruby-talk@ admins. The problem is on the forum side and there is little that the ruby-talk@ admins can do about it.

What ruby-forum will probably have to do is either:

1) mail to the mailing list as a register ruby-forum user

or

2) start registering ruby-forum users before the mail gets sent to ruby-talk@ as the user. You can sign up for the list and turn off mail delivery so this wouldn't cause annoying duplicates to the poster.

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> On Mar 7, 2012, at 14:55 , Eric Christopherson wrote:
> 
> > Is any progress being made? Does anyone have an idea of how long it  
> > will take before the two mediums reflect each other's contents (if  
> > ever)?

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**Author:** ![7stud2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/7/9de053/32.png) [@7stud2](https://rubytalk.org/u/7stud2)\
**Post date:** [21 March 2012 13:17 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/missing-messages/64980/8 "2012-03-21T13:17:51Z")

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Ryan Davis wrote in post #1050800:

> 1) mail to the mailing list as a register ruby-forum user

This is what's being done from now on. Everything seems to be working  
fine. I apologize for the inconveniences.

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> --  
> Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C).
