"Litte Ruby" book

The book (or book-germ) entitled "A Little Ruby, A Lot of Objects" was
possible to get from

http://www.visibleworkings.com/little-ruby/

but now it has just vanished.

Could someone who has it, pass it over?

(I tried the google cache way... I think it's unnecessary to go into details
about the drawbacks of that, I just tell you... it has many.)

Thanks,

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Csaba Henk wrote:

The book (or book-germ) entitled "A Little Ruby, A Lot of Objects" was
possible to get from

http://www.visibleworkings.com/little-ruby/

but now it has just vanished.

Could someone who has it, pass it over?

(I tried the google cache way... I think it's unnecessary to go into details
about the drawbacks of that, I just tell you... it has many.)

http://web.archive.org/web/20030618203059/visibleworkings.com/little-ruby/

Does anyone know what happened to this book? It looks like the author
quit writing it back in 2001. Brian Marick, are you there?

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:28:36 +0900, Andreas Schwarz <usenet@andreas-s.net> wrote:

Csaba Henk wrote:
> The book (or book-germ) entitled "A Little Ruby, A Lot of Objects" was
> possible to get from
>
> http://www.visibleworkings.com/little-ruby/
>
> but now it has just vanished.
>
> Could someone who has it, pass it over?
>
> (I tried the google cache way... I think it's unnecessary to go into details
> about the drawbacks of that, I just tell you... it has many.)

http://web.archive.org/web/20030618203059/visibleworkings.com/little-ruby/

Huh, thanks, I didn't know this source... This book is quite valueable, as
the (almost?) only source of metaclass stuff...

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In article <slrncctg5d.7n5.usenet@213-203-244-47.kunde.vdserver.de>, Andreas Schwarz wrote:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030618203059/visibleworkings.com/little-ruby/

--
Csaba

"There's more to life, than books, you know but not much more..."
[The Smiths]
***
If you want to send me a mail, see it in the mailto link at
http://www.renyi.hu/~ekho/egyelore.html

I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep getting in the way.

It's missing because my ISP had a meltdown and turns out not to be so great about backups. I'm not so great about keeping my master sources an exact mirror of the website, so I'm going to rebuild my three sites on my new ISP (which is Ruby-friendly: www.kattare.com).

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On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Carl Youngblood wrote:

Does anyone know what happened to this book? It looks like the author
quit writing it back in 2001. Brian Marick, are you there?

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Yes, but I don't like what it did to the ice cream.

Csaba Henk wrote:

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In article <slrncctg5d.7n5.usenet@213-203-244-47.kunde.vdserver.de>, Andreas Schwarz wrote:

A Little Ruby, A Lot of Objects
   
Huh, thanks, I didn't know this source... This book is quite valueable, as
the (almost?) only source of metaclass stuff...

Good to hear. It seems like a great idea. The Schemer books were great.

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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 05:47:22 +0900, Brian Marick <marick@visibleworkings.com> wrote:

I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep
getting in the way.

Hi, Brian!

I downloaded your book and read the metaclass part.
It was very interesting and insightful.
I learned a lot... Thanks.

While reading, I had a question.

You explained the 3 different concepts.
object (instance)
class
metaclass

You said that class methods like new() belong to metaclass.
I understand it.
However, you said that class instance variables (@created in your example)
belong to class instead of metaclass.
I believe that class instance variables should belong to metaclass because
they are kind of instance variables.
Am I wrong?
What about class variables like @@var?

I would appreciate if you explain it.

Thanks in advance.

kong

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On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Carl Youngblood wrote:

> Does anyone know what happened to this book? It looks like the author
> quit writing it back in 2001. Brian Marick, are you there?

I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep
getting in the way.

It's missing because my ISP had a meltdown and turns out not to be so
great about backups. I'm not so great about keeping my master sources
an exact mirror of the website, so I'm going to rebuild my three sites
on my new ISP (which is Ruby-friendly: www.kattare.com).

-----
Brian Marick
Consulting, training, and contracting
Mostly on agile methods with a testing slant
www.testing.com, www.testing.com/cgi-bin/blog

Excellent - can't wait to see them !

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On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Carl Youngblood wrote:

Does anyone know what happened to this book? It looks like the author
quit writing it back in 2001. Brian Marick, are you there?

I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep
getting in the way.

It's missing because my ISP had a meltdown and turns out not to be so
great about backups. I'm not so great about keeping my master sources
an exact mirror of the website, so I'm going to rebuild my three sites
on my new ISP (which is Ruby-friendly: www.kattare.com).

-----
Brian Marick
Consulting, training, and contracting
Mostly on agile methods with a testing slant
www.testing.com, www.testing.com/cgi-bin/blog

* Brian Marick <marick@visibleworkings.com> [0647 21:47]:

>Does anyone know what happened to this book? It looks like the author
>quit writing it back in 2001. Brian Marick, are you there?

I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep
getting in the way.

Great news, this was a really clear explanation of parts of Ruby
that are a little cryptic for new arrivals.

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On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Carl Youngblood wrote:

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you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where
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I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep
getting in the way.

I don't know if this is the right place, but reading this tread got me
to the "little ruby" book, so maybe you'll be patient with me. I got
stuck on page 9 of chapter 1, where it says:

How can a String represent an Integer? A String with n characters
represents the Integer n.

My confusion could come from the fact that English is not my mother
tongue, but if I replace n with 5 and read the sentence aloud, it says
"a string with 5 characters represents the integer 5". So the string
"hello", which has 5 characters, represents the integer 5?

That doesn't make much sense to me. What am I missing?

photis

The book is back, at http://www.visibleworkings.com.

Unfortunately, I resolved to decide at Agile Development Conference whether to continue _A Little Ruby_ or start on _Driving Agile Projects with Business-Facing Examples_. The latter won out. (But I did code a little bit of Ruby while there...)

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On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:47 PM, Brian Marick wrote:

On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Carl Youngblood wrote:

Does anyone know what happened to this book? It looks like the author
quit writing it back in 2001. Brian Marick, are you there?

I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep getting in the way.

-----
Brian Marick
Consulting, training, and contracting
Mostly on agile methods with a testing slant
www.testing.com, www.testing.com/cgi-bin/blog

(commenting without having read the material quoted) Maybe he is
referring to computability theory and the way Turing machines use
strings of different lengths to represent numbers. The contents of
the string aren't important in this case, since usually there are only
a few different possible symbols, but the length of them is.

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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 04:43:22 +0900, Photis <photis@oriste.com> wrote:

> I'm here. I hope to restart at some point, but other projects keep
> getting in the way.

I don't know if this is the right place, but reading this tread got me
to the "little ruby" book, so maybe you'll be patient with me. I got
stuck on page 9 of chapter 1, where it says:

How can a String represent an Integer? A String with n characters
represents the Integer n.

My confusion could come from the fact that English is not my mother
tongue, but if I replace n with 5 and read the sentence aloud, it says
"a string with 5 characters represents the integer 5". So the string
"hello", which has 5 characters, represents the integer 5?

That doesn't make much sense to me. What am I missing?

photis

Brian Marick wrote:

The book is back, at http://www.visibleworkings.com.

Unfortunately, I resolved to decide at Agile Development Conference whether to continue _A Little Ruby_ or start on _Driving Agile Projects with Business-Facing Examples_. The latter won out. (But I did code a little bit of Ruby while there...)

Glad to see the book is available again; sad that you do don't have current plans to continue it.

The Little Ruby page at http://www.visibleworkings.com/little-ruby/
mentions a mailing list but, given your statement here, I suspect this is no longer relevant. Am I correct?

Thanks,

James

It still exists. I have three questions about the book from earlier in this thread that I want to answer there, but I'll cc here.

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On Jun 27, 2004, at 5:28 PM, James Britt wrote:

Brian Marick wrote:

The book is back, at http://www.visibleworkings.com.
Unfortunately, I resolved to decide at Agile Development Conference whether to continue _A Little Ruby_ or start on _Driving Agile Projects with Business-Facing Examples_. The latter won out. (But I did code a little bit of Ruby while there...)

Glad to see the book is available again; sad that you do don't have current plans to continue it.

The Little Ruby page at http://www.visibleworkings.com/little-ruby/
mentions a mailing list but, given your statement here, I suspect this is no longer relevant. Am I correct?

Thanks,

James

-----
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Consulting, training, and contracting
Mostly on agile methods with a testing slant
www.testing.com, www.testing.com/cgi-bin/blog