Mr P wrote:
I've already forwarded the TIOBE page to the team and
seen favorable responses.
[insert rant about how TIOBE is pure, unadulterated bull here]
One word: inconclusive. About anything.
David Vallner
pat eyler wrote:
>
> > NYC.rb has a regular monthly attendance of over 40 and is working
> > to put together a regional conference in the Spring.
> > There are active Ruby groups in Pittsburgh, Oklahoma City, New Haven,
> > Boston, San Diego, Missoula, Boise, St. Louise, Portland, Minneapolis,
> > Columbus,
>
> What is the name for the one in Columbus?the columbus.rb
http://www.columbusrb.com/>
> Li
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thanks,
-pate
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Interesting. I live in Columbus, Ohio and didn't realize there was a
Ruby user's group here. I should try to find the time and make one of
the meetings. I've been using Ruby for 2 years now for The Diamond
Cellar (http://www.diamondcellar.com) and have had the chance to build
a couple of in-house GUI apps (a mobile CRM app and an employee survey
app), a Rails order management system, and lots of admin scripts. I'd
be interested in hearing how other folks leverage Ruby...
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On 11/28/06, Li Chen <chen_li3@yahoo.com> wrote:
Brad Tilley wrote:
Quoting Richard Conroy <richard.conroy@gmail.com>:
Ruby is a great language but if windows development is of primary interest to
you, >you will have to curtail your ambitions or research the problem
thoroughly.This has been my experience as well. Windows support is improving, but it's not
as good as some other open source/free scripting languages (Python and Perl).
Are you referring to ActiveState when you mean "Windows support?"
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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, FBG, AB, PTA, PGS, MS, MNLP, NST, ACMC(P)
http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/
If God had meant for carrots to be eaten cooked, He would have given rabbits fire.
> I am not sure what you mean by *corporate* alternative, that term in
> my mind suggests internal applications to an enterprise.
>I've done some Ruby GUI apps on Win32, and distributed them across a
large enterprise.My best recommendation is to learn a scriptable install language for
Windows. The one I use is:
http://nsis.sourceforge.net/
This is solid advice for any kind of Windows development. Windows
installers are ridiculously more difficult than they need to be.
RubyScript2EXE is great, but it's insanely hard to make it bootstrap a
Windows system to a ready state on its own.
I ended up making an NSIS package that:
1. Checked the registry to see if the current version of the
application was installed.
1a. If yes, launch the app with the appropriate 'rubyw.exe' invocation.
1b. If no, perform the install.Updating everyone to a new version is then just a matter of pushing
down a single EXE file. The next time they run the app, it will
update.
Yeah, its the application update bit that really makes your flesh
crawl.
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On 11/29/06, Wilson Bilkovich <wilsonb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/29/06, Richard Conroy <richard.conroy@gmail.com> wrote:
This is exactly the situation I still find myself in. Perhaps 80% of
the time I can do what I need to do using Ruby. The other 20% of the
time I switch to Python to do the job. Over time hopefully Ruby becomes
more and more Windows-oriented. At least to the degree it's Mac and
Linux friendly.
Brad Tilley wrote:
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When I have to muck around with security descriptors or other more complex
windows specific stuff, I general use Python when Ruby cannot do the task as
easily.
Hi --
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, gregarican wrote:
pat eyler wrote:
On 11/28/06, Li Chen <chen_li3@yahoo.com> wrote:
NYC.rb has a regular monthly attendance of over 40 and is working
to put together a regional conference in the Spring.
There are active Ruby groups in Pittsburgh, Oklahoma City, New Haven,
Boston, San Diego, Missoula, Boise, St. Louise, Portland, Minneapolis,
Columbus,What is the name for the one in Columbus?
the columbus.rb
http://www.columbusrb.com/Interesting. I live in Columbus, Ohio and didn't realize there was a
Ruby user's group here.
Not only that; you've also got a conference coming up:
http://erubycon.com/
David
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Quoting "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@cesmail.net>:
Are you referring to ActiveState when you mean "Windows support?"
No. Things like Mark Hammonds win32 packages for Python that add a huge amount
of Windows specific functionality: Python for Windows Extensions download | SourceForge.net
I think Daniel Berger and some others are working on a lot of win32 specific
stuff for Ruby that may one day be comparable to that:
http://rubyforge.org/projects/win32utils/
Also, simple things like having an MSI based installer for large scale
installations (install across an entire domain for example).