Thufir wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:31:23 +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
And for Sun, you can write me directly. I have no evil plans or pet cat
(ok, I do have a cat, but I don't think the *cat* is evil anyway).Shouldn't the emphasis have been on "think" instead of "cat"?
Caught!
- Charlie
Charles.O.Nutter@sun.com [mailto:Charles.O.Nutter@sun.com]:
John Lam (DLR) wrote:
> BTW, I'm fairly certain that you can't do this in Java today, but I
could be mistaken.Both are possible, along with other weird and wild things, through many
third-party libraries for Java and non-standard JVM extensions. The
difference is that they're not baked into standard Java, so they're
generally not thought of as features of Java. C# and .NET in general
include a lot of things as standard that are generally relegated to
third-party libraries (often several incarnations) on the Java
platform.
Wow. I had no idea that Java now has libraries that expose a generic query syntax that can be used over arbitrary data sources (in memory, database, web service data sources via custom providers). Do you support dynamic Intellisense for the data sources in the IDEs as well? Do you have a pointer to this?
Thanks,
-John
John Lam (DLR) wrote:
Charles.O.Nutter@sun.com [mailto:Charles.O.Nutter@sun.com]:
John Lam (DLR) wrote:
BTW, I'm fairly certain that you can't do this in Java today, but I
could be mistaken.
Both are possible, along with other weird and wild things, through many
third-party libraries for Java and non-standard JVM extensions. The
difference is that they're not baked into standard Java, so they're
generally not thought of as features of Java. C# and .NET in general
include a lot of things as standard that are generally relegated to
third-party libraries (often several incarnations) on the Java
platform.Wow. I had no idea that Java now has libraries that expose a generic query syntax that can be used over arbitrary data sources (in memory, database, web service data sources via custom providers). Do you support dynamic Intellisense for the data sources in the IDEs as well? Do you have a pointer to this?
Nothing so unified; there's a "linq-like" library that either preprocesses Java source or post-processes bytecode (I don't recall which) to allow embedding expression languages into the code. I believe it was posted on LtU a couple months back. I don't know if any more has been done with it, like creating APIs/interface data sources can implement to make use of a generalized query language.
And again, it's not that "Java" has these libraries...it's that just about anything you want is "out there" somewhere in the massive number of public/open/community projects. It may or may not be getting uptake because it may or may not be seen as generally useful enough for people to latch on.
- Charlie