# Gateway broken? **URL:** \ **Category:** ruby-talk\ **Created:** [10 March 2005 21:38 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880 "2005-03-10T21:38:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Berger\_Daniel1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecc23a/32.png) [@Berger\_Daniel1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Berger_Daniel1)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 21:38 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/1 "2005-03-10T21:38:34Z")
Hi all, It appears that messages posted to google groups are not making it the ML again. Can we please fix? Thanks. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://rubytalk.org/u/Anonymous_Coward)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 21:49 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/2 "2005-03-10T21:49:35Z")
> Hi all, > > It appears that messages posted to google groups are not making it the > ML again. Yep, it sure is broken. I'm also getting some sort of bounce messages? > Can we please fix? Thanks. > > Dan E > **···** > > On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said: ---
**Author:** ![Dennis\_Oelkers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Dennis\_Oelkers](https://rubytalk.org/u/Dennis_Oelkers)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 22:38 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/3 "2005-03-10T22:38:25Z")
Hey folks, ES wrote: > **···** > > > On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > It appears that messages posted to google groups are not making it the > > > ML again. > > >     > > > Yep, it sure is broken. I'm also getting some sort of bounce messages? > > If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate it, and check if there really > is a problem at the gateway. > Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone. > > Kind regards, >                 Dennis Oelkers ---
**Author:** ![James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://rubytalk.org/u/James_Edward_Gray_II)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 22:44 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/4 "2005-03-10T22:44:08Z")
> If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate it, and check if there really is a problem at the gateway. The gateway has been one way for several days now. A quick trip to Google Groups shows it well. I had a lot of trouble with this during this weeks Ruby Quiz. Here's the two submissions that never came to the mailing list: [http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/65a71c96a50491e3](http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/65a71c96a50491e3) and [http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/3bcab05c47d47bc6](http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/3bcab05c47d47bc6) > Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone. I too am seeing this odd behavior, whatever the cause. James Edward Gray II > **···** > > On Mar 10, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Dennis Oelkers wrote: ---
**Author:** ![Joel\_VanderWerf1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/94ad74/32.png) [@Joel\_VanderWerf1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Joel_VanderWerf1)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 22:44 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/5 "2005-03-10T22:44:24Z")
Dennis Oelkers wrote: > Hey folks, > > ES wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > It appears that messages posted to google groups are not making it the > > > ML again. > > >    > > > Yep, it sure is broken. I'm also getting some sort of bounce messages? > > If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate it, and check if there really > is a problem at the gateway. > Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone. > > Kind regards, >                Dennis Oelkers One example: the recent thread on "priority queue using RBTree". My posts to the list went to the list and ng. The reply from Arah Howard was not forwarded to the list (I only found out about it because he addressed it to me as well). Thanks! > **···** > > > > On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said: > > -- > Joel VanderWerf California PATH, UC Berkeley > [mailto:vjoel@path](mailto:vjoel@path).berkeley.edu Ph. (510) 231-9446 > [http://www.path.berkeley.edu](http://www.path.berkeley.edu) FAX (510) 231-9565 ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://rubytalk.org/u/Anonymous_Coward)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 23:23 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/6 "2005-03-10T23:23:43Z")
> Hey folks, > > ES wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > It appears that messages posted to google groups are not making it the > > > ML again. > > > > Yep, it sure is broken. I'm also getting some sort of bounce messages? > > If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate > it, and check if there really > is a problem at the gateway. > Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone. I think I may have deleted all the bounces, I'll take a look. They're coming from a japanese qmail server that states the message has been in the queue for too long, To: my ruby-ml address. I don't think that I have return receipts turned on or anything. > Kind regards, >                 Dennis Oelkers E > **···** > > On Thu, March 10, 2005 10:38 pm, Dennis Oelkers said: > > > > On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said: ---
**Author:** ![James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://rubytalk.org/u/James_Edward_Gray_II)\ **Post date:** [15 March 2005 02:11 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/7 "2005-03-15T02:11:19Z")
Any word on the status of the gateway? Thanks. James Edward Gray II > **···** > > On Mar 10, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Dennis Oelkers wrote: > > > If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate it, and check if there really is a problem at the gateway. ---
**Author:** ![Dennis\_Oelkers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Dennis\_Oelkers](https://rubytalk.org/u/Dennis_Oelkers)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 23:14 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/8 "2005-03-10T23:14:57Z")
Hey James, James Edward Gray II wrote: > > Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone. > > I too am seeing this odd behavior, whatever the cause. It would be helpful if you (or anyone else receiving any bounces) would forward them to me (keeping all headers as they are), so I can check out if they really originate at the gateway. Kind regards,              Dennis Oelkers ---
**Author:** ![James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@James\_Edward\_Gray\_II](https://rubytalk.org/u/James_Edward_Gray_II)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 23:40 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/9 "2005-03-10T23:40:10Z")
To be clear though, these messages ARE showing up on the mailing list, then I get a bounce notice days later. James Edward Gray II > **···** > > On Mar 10, 2005, at 5:23 PM, ES wrote: > > > I think I may have deleted all the bounces, I'll take a look. They're > > coming from a japanese qmail server that states the message has been > > in the queue for too long, To: my ruby-ml address. I don't think that > > I have return receipts turned on or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Burt2](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/rubytalk.org/dave_burt2/32/2036_2.png) [@Dave\_Burt2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Dave_Burt2)\ **Post date:** [15 March 2005 02:27 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/10 "2005-03-15T02:27:49Z")
> Any word on the status of the gateway? Thanks. > > James Edward Gray II No quiz posts have been sent to c.l.r but not the ML yet. I see three solutions both ways: - Matthew Moss - Glenn Parker - Dave Burt ---
**Author:** ![ts1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@ts1](https://rubytalk.org/u/ts1)\ **Post date:** [15 March 2005 09:21 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/11 "2005-03-15T09:21:54Z")
> Any word on the status of the gateway? Apparently it's unidirectional : work only ruby-talk ==\> clr See for example the thread   "[newby] class variables and class instance variable?" on google Guy Decoux ---
**Author:** ![HAL\_9000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/90ced4/32.png) [@HAL\_9000](https://rubytalk.org/u/HAL_9000)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2005 23:18 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/12 "2005-03-10T23:18:29Z")
Dennis Oelkers wrote: > Hey James, > > James Edward Gray II wrote: > > > > Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone. > > > > I too am seeing this odd behavior, whatever the cause. > > It would be helpful if you (or anyone else receiving any bounces) would forward them > to me (keeping all headers as they are), so I can check out if they really originate at the > gateway. I've seen this -- my impression has been that it's a symptom of the mailing list itself. Hal ---
**Author:** ![Dennis\_Oelkers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Dennis\_Oelkers](https://rubytalk.org/u/Dennis_Oelkers)\ **Post date:** [15 March 2005 13:53 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/13 "2005-03-15T13:53:06Z")
Hey ts, hey list, ts wrote: > > Any word on the status of the gateway? > > Apparently it's unidirectional : work only ruby-talk ==\> clr > > See for example the thread > > "[newby] class variables and class instance variable?" > > on google You are absolutely right, due to the fact that I was out of office for a few days, I didn't notice that I had left the script in "do nothing, just log what you would you" debugmode, stupid me! Nonetheless, all missing postings from the group should reach the list in the next minutes. Kind regards (and sorry!),                    Dennis Oelkers ---
**Author:** ![Dennis\_Oelkers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Dennis\_Oelkers](https://rubytalk.org/u/Dennis_Oelkers)\ **Post date:** [11 March 2005 08:47 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/14 "2005-03-11T08:47:20Z")
Hal Fulton wrote: > I've seen this -- my impression has been that it's a symptom of > the mailing list itself. Yes, those bounces are definitely not related to the gateway at all. I guess they result from a subscribes broken mta which is using the return-path to send the bounce to the original posted instead of the mailing list host. Kind regards,              Dennis Oelkers ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://rubytalk.org/u/Anonymous_Coward)\ **Post date:** [15 March 2005 20:37 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/15 "2005-03-15T20:37:56Z")
In data 3/15/2005, "Dennis Oelkers" \ ha scritto: > Hey ts, hey list, > > ts wrote: > > > > Any word on the status of the gateway? > > > > Apparently it's unidirectional : work only ruby-talk ==\> clr > > > > See for example the thread > > > > "[newby] class variables and class instance variable?" > > > > on google > > You are absolutely right, due to the fact that I was out of office > for a few days, I didn't notice that I had left the script in "do nothing, > just log what you would you" debugmode, stupid me! > > Nonetheless, all missing postings from the group should reach the > list in the next minutes. Indeed they did, unfortunately in some arbitrary semi-inverse order 🙂 > Kind regards (and sorry!), >                   Dennis Oelkers No problem, thanks for the service! E ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Neukirche1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Christian\_Neukirche1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Christian_Neukirche1)\ **Post date:** [11 March 2005 13:41 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/16 "2005-03-11T13:41:24Z")
Dennis Oelkers \ writes: > Hal Fulton wrote: > > > I've seen this -- my impression has been that it's a symptom of > > the mailing list itself. > > Yes, those bounces are definitely not related to the gateway at all. > I guess they result from a subscribes broken mta which is using the > return-path to send the bounce to the original posted instead of the > mailing list host. > > Kind regards, >              Dennis Oelkers I already mailed the ml admins to remove that particular subscription, but didn't get any reply yet. That paricular host (arch.dtop.jp) drops mail to postmaster, btw. > **···** > > -- > Christian Neukirchen \ [http://chneukirchen.org](http://chneukirchen.org) ---
**Author:** ![Yukihiro\_Matsumoto2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Yukihiro\_Matsumoto2](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yukihiro_Matsumoto2)\ **Post date:** [11 March 2005 13:49 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/17 "2005-03-11T13:49:42Z")
Hello, > I already mailed the ml admins to remove that particular subscription, > but didn't get any reply yet. I think I missed your mail. > That paricular host (arch.dtop.jp) drops mail to postmaster, btw. We don't have any subscribe member from dtop.jp. Maybe he is forwarding his mail.               matz. > **···** > > In message "Re: Gateway broken?" on Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:41:24 +0900, Christian Neukirchen \ writes: ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Neukirche1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Christian\_Neukirche1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Christian_Neukirche1)\ **Post date:** [11 March 2005 16:55 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/gateway-broken/16880/18 "2005-03-11T16:55:31Z")
Yukihiro Matsumoto \ writes: > \>That paricular host (arch.dtop.jp) drops mail to postmaster, btw. > > We don't have any subscribe member from dtop.jp. Maybe he is > forwarding his mail. I guess it's time for another line in my fetchmailrc then. :-/ > **···** > > >               matz. > > -- > Christian Neukirchen \ [http://chneukirchen.org](http://chneukirchen.org)