Curses base windowing system

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As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base or
something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may be
we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Thanks in advance.

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I forgot to mention that Micro-Windowing System would be a good complement
for Ruby(and Tcl/Tk) which also use a very little resources and portable.

“Useko Netsumi” usenets@nyc.rr.com wrote in message
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As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base
or

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something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may be
we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Thanks in advance.

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> So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as 'lynx', > may be we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited > Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc. > Try links, instead of lynx, with the graphics option.
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:53:34 +0900 “Useko Netsumi” usenets@nyc.rr.com wrote:

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How much memmory/diskspace/CPU do you have?
If you want, you can run a lighter-weight window manager instead of
Gnome/KDE. Get a fast web browser like Phoenix:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/

And that might do it.

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On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:53:34AM +0900, Useko Netsumi wrote:

As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base or
something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may be
we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Thanks in advance.

–
Daniel Carrera
Graduate Teaching Assistant. Math Dept.
University of Maryland. (301) 405-5137

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Hi Useko.

Try "screen", its amazing, though it may not be exactly what you have in
mind.

Sam

http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/screen.html

Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical
terminal between several processes, typically interactive shells. Each
virtual terminal provides the functions of the DEC VT100 terminal and,
in addition, several control functions from the ANSI X3.64 (ISO 6429)
and ISO 2022 standards (e.g., insert/delete line and support for
multiple character sets). There is a scrollback history buffer for each
virtual terminal and a copy-and-paste mechanism that allows the user to
move text regions between windows. When screen is called, it creates a
single window with a shell in it (or the specified command) and then
gets out of your way so that you can use the program as you normally
would. Then, at any time, you can create new (full-screen) windows with
other programs in them (including more shells), kill the current window,
view a list of the active windows, turn output logging on and off, copy
text between windows, view the scrollback history, switch between
windows, etc. All windows run their programs completely independent of
each other. Programs continue to run when their window is currently not
visible and even when the whole screen session is detached from the
users terminal.

Quoteing usenets@nyc.rr.com, on Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:53:34AM +0900:

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As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be 'curses' base or
something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as 'lynx', may be
we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Thanks in advance.

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If you want a curses based windowing system, there is “twin”.

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–
Gabriel Emerson

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:48:22 -0500, Useko Netsumi wrote:

As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base
or something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may be
we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Thanks in advance.

7

As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base or
something else.

Links (as other people have mentioned in this thread) for a command-line
web browser, and twin for a command-line windowing environment.

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So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may be
we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Thanks in advance.

–
Paul Duncan pabs@pablotron.org pabs in #gah (OPN IRC)
http://www.pablotron.org/ OpenPGP Key ID: 0x82C29562

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you ahould try w3m, It seems to me it was far better than links, even
if I could not remember why :slight_smile:
you colud even search for elinks (enahanced links).

But why would you need a curses based window system?
There is plenty of command line/curses tools and multiple console (or
screen ) should fit your need… anyway, blackbox (or openbox) + bbkey
was the best thing on my p90/32mb, maybe you’ll like them.

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il Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:48:22 -0500, “Useko Netsumi” usenets@nyc.rr.com ha scritto::

As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base or
something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may be
we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

9

I use screen but this is not what I’m asking. I need a real windowing system
like Win32 or X11 but much lighter, in which I settle for much less
option(e.g. limited fonts, colors, resolution …), BUT can navigate using
mouse pointers, buttons, forms, etc…

“Sam Roberts” sroberts@uniserve.com wrote in message
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Hi Useko.

Try “screen”, its amazing, though it may not be exactly what you have in
mind.

Sam

Screen - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical
terminal between several processes, typically interactive shells. Each
virtual terminal provides the functions of the DEC VT100 terminal and,
in addition, several control functions from the ANSI X3.64 (ISO 6429)
and ISO 2022 standards (e.g., insert/delete line and support for
multiple character sets). There is a scrollback history buffer for each
virtual terminal and a copy-and-paste mechanism that allows the user to
move text regions between windows. When screen is called, it creates a
single window with a shell in it (or the specified command) and then
gets out of your way so that you can use the program as you normally
would. Then, at any time, you can create new (full-screen) windows with
other programs in them (including more shells), kill the current window,
view a list of the active windows, turn output logging on and off, copy
text between windows, view the scrollback history, switch between
windows, etc. All windows run their programs completely independent of
each other. Programs continue to run when their window is currently not
visible and even when the whole screen session is detached from the
users terminal.

Quoteing usenets@nyc.rr.com, on Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:53:34AM +0900:

As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base
or
something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may
be

···

we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Thanks in advance.

10

Phoenix required at least 32MB memory, 128 swap space, and 1.5GB to build
it. So, it still too much for an old PC with only 8-12MB memory and 300MB
harddrive.

“Daniel Carrera” dcarrera@math.umd.edu wrote in message
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How much memmory/diskspace/CPU do you have?
If you want, you can run a lighter-weight window manager instead of
Gnome/KDE. Get a fast web browser like Phoenix:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/

And that might do it.

As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base
or
something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may
be

···

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:53:34AM +0900, Useko Netsumi wrote:

we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Thanks in advance.

–
Daniel Carrera
Graduate Teaching Assistant. Math Dept.
University of Maryland. (301) 405-5137

11

Do you have the link for ‘links’, thanks.

Much appreciated.

“Albert Wagner” alwagner@tcac.net wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:53:34 +0900 > “Useko Netsumi” usenets@nyc.rr.com wrote:

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’,
may be we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

Try links, instead of lynx, with the graphics option.

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Gabriele, I don’t have 32MB nor even 500MB diskspace. Thanks.

“gabriele renzi” surrender_it@remove.yahoo.it wrote in message
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As I have only limited resources on my laptop(memory, diskspace, and CPU
speed), I was wondering if there is any a very lite windowing system to
emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base
or
something else.

So, instead of just pure character mode web browser such as ‘lynx’, may
be

···

il Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:48:22 -0500, “Useko Netsumi” > usenets@nyc.rr.com ha scritto::

we can have a limited GUI based mini-web browser with limited
Graphics/Fonts/Menu Systems/Forms/Button/etc.

you ahould try w3m, It seems to me it was far better than links, even
if I could not remember why :slight_smile:
you colud even search for elinks (enahanced links).

But why would you need a curses based window system?
There is plenty of command line/curses tools and multiple console (or
screen ) should fit your need… anyway, blackbox (or openbox) + bbkey
was the best thing on my p90/32mb, maybe you’ll like them.

13

Searching google is pretty easy, you know.

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On Thursday, February 20, 2003, 3:34:03 PM, Useko wrote:

Do you have the link for ‘links’, thanks.

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There’s GTK over framebuffer.

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On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:13:51PM +0900, Useko Netsumi wrote:

I use screen but this is not what I’m asking. I need a real windowing system
like Win32 or X11 but much lighter, in which I settle for much less
option(e.g. limited fonts, colors, resolution …), BUT can navigate using
mouse pointers, buttons, forms, etc…

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The latest “Brave Gnu World”
http://www.gnu.org/brave-gnu-world/issue-47.en.html

introduced “Twin” http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/

Perhaps you can use this

T

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On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:53:34AM +0900, Useko Netsumi wrote:

emulate basic/limited Windows or X11 functionality, may be ‘curses’ base
or
something else.

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I did search prior and seems that links is a much common words. Perhaps if
you have any reference URL for me to get started from, may be a more unique
keyword pertaining to that ‘links’ software, it would be easier for me to
find it.

Regards.
Useko.

“Gavin Sinclair” gsinclair@soyabean.com.au wrote in message
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On Thursday, February 20, 2003, 3:34:03 PM, Useko wrote:

Do you have the link for ‘links’, thanks.

Searching google is pretty easy, you know.

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Useko Netsumi wrote:

I did search prior and seems that links is a much common words. Perhaps if
you have any reference URL for me to get started from, may be a more unique
keyword pertaining to that ‘links’ software, it would be easier for me to
find it.

Try googling for ‘links web browser’. It’s the first hit.