# Building ruby with bcc32 **URL:** \ **Category:** ruby-talk\ **Created:** [13 July 2007 06:47 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067 "2007-07-13T06:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 06:47 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/1 "2007-07-13T06:47:45Z")
Hi, I am looking for someone who built ruby using Borland c. Because I don't want to use BIG M$$$ compiler. And dont' want to feel like lost without them. And I am sure still there is somebody still using Borland C. Anybody give me a hand pls. I think bcc32 directory which comes with the ruby trunk is not up to date. And I have no makefile experience to fix it up and commit to the ruby community. I get the following error. D:\Ruby\_test\_ver\>bcc32\configure.bat MAKE Version 5.2 Copyright (c) 1987, 2000 Borland MAKE Version 5.2 Copyright (c) 1987, 2000 Borland Creating Makefile type "`make'" to make ruby for bccwin32. D:\Ruby\_test\_ver\>make MAKE Version 5.2 Copyright (c) 1987, 2000 Borland Error ./common.mk 611: Redefinition of target 'opt\_sc.inc' Error ./common.mk 611: Redefinition of target 'optinsn.inc' Error ./common.mk 611: Redefinition of target 'optunifs.inc' Error ./common.mk 611: Redefinition of target 'insns.inc' Error ./common.mk 611: Redefinition of target 'vmtc.inc' \*\*\* 5 errors during make \*\*\* I edit the [common.mk](http://common.mk) and comment the error lines. And then I get the other error. D:\Ruby\_test\_ver\>make MAKE Version 5.2 Copyright (c) 1987, 2000 Borland config.h updated. Creating config.status Fatal: '.\ruby.h' does not exist - don't know how to make it Pls help. OS: WinXP Comp: Borland C++ 5.82 for Win32 Copyright (c) 1993, 2005 Borland Any help is appreciated With kindest regards yc > **···** > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Perrin1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Chad\_Perrin1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Chad_Perrin1)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 06:56 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/2 "2007-07-13T06:56:46Z")
Actually, I think gcc is probably a more common C compiler than Borland C, as an alternative to the Microsoft compiler. It's even more popular on MS Windows, from what I've seen -- though I admit my experience may be a bit skewed from the average in this regard. > **···** > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 03:47:45PM +0900, Yusuf Celik wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am looking for someone who built ruby using Borland c. > > Because I don't want to use BIG M$$$ compiler. > > And dont' want to feel like lost without them. > > And I am sure still there is somebody still using Borland C. > > -- > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [[http://ccd.apotheon.org](http://ccd.apotheon.org) ] > Dr. Ron Paul: "Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when > terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons." ---
**Author:** ![Nobuyoshi\_Nakada1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nobuyoshi\_Nakada1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Nobuyoshi_Nakada1)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 07:20 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/3 "2007-07-13T07:20:28Z")
Hi, At Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:47:45 +0900, Yusuf Celik wrote in [ruby-talk:259253]: > I think bcc32 directory which comes with the ruby trunk is not up to > date. bcc32 support will be obsolete. > **···** > > -- > Nobu Nakada ---
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 07:16 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/4 "2007-07-13T07:16:23Z")
Thanks Chad, I am really glad that somebody's heard my scream. I never used gcc before. But I think I will give it a go. I've been using Borland c++ for a while and quite happy with it. And now there is a free version can search using "Borland's Free C++ Compiler ". I guess the problem is in the make file regarding the include directory. Since I have no experience with Makefiles I don't know how to fix it. Thanks again Chad appreciated. With kindest regards yc Chad Perrin wrote: > **···** > > > Actually, I think gcc is probably a more common C compiler than Borland > > C, as an alternative to the Microsoft compiler. It's even more popular > > on MS Windows, from what I've seen -- though I admit my experience may > > be > > a bit skewed from the average in this regard. > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). ---
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 07:55 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/5 "2007-07-13T07:55:31Z")
Thanks for the reply. Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote: > bcc32 support will be obsolete. May I ask the reason? Because, bcc32 is a good and popular compiler in Win environment. And there are lots of people using it. Thanks in advance yc > **···** > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). ---
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 12:16 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/6 "2007-07-13T12:16:20Z")
Yusuf Celik wrote: > Thanks for the reply. > > Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote: > > > bcc32 support will be obsolete. > > May I ask the reason? So no reason, ok, fair enough. I have another question then Where can I get gcc compiler and how to use to build ruby.exe ? Thanks in advance yc > **···** > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Perrin1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Chad\_Perrin1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Chad_Perrin1)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2007 06:31 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/7 "2007-07-14T06:31:46Z")
You're quite welcome. Sometimes, something that compiles with one compiler doesn't with another. Generally, GCC and the MS compiler are among the most important compilers to people who write software like the Ruby, Perl, and Python interpreters. I tend to guess the Intel compiler might be third place. That's one reason I brought up the GCC compiler (the other being you indicated you had no interest in using the MS compiler). I just thought you might want to know some more about my reasoning. > **···** > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 04:16:23PM +0900, Yusuf Celik wrote: > > > Thanks Chad, > > I am really glad that somebody's heard my scream. > > I never used gcc before. But I think I will give it a go. > > I've been using Borland c++ for a while and quite happy with it. > > And now there is a free version can search using "Borland's Free C++ > > Compiler ". > > > > I guess the problem is in the make file regarding the include directory. > > Since I have no experience with Makefiles I don't know how to fix it. > > > > Thanks again Chad appreciated. > > > > With kindest regards > > -- > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [[http://ccd.apotheon.org](http://ccd.apotheon.org) ] > Phillip J. Haack: "Productivity is not about speed. It's about velocity. > You can be fast, but if you're going in the wrong direction, you're not > helping anyone." ---
**Author:** ![Ari\_Brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Ari\_Brown](https://rubytalk.org/u/Ari_Brown)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 12:22 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/8 "2007-07-13T12:22:34Z")
> **[ubuntu.org - ubuntu Resources and Information.](http://ww1.ubuntu.org/?usid=20&utid=11043101247)** > > ubuntu.org is your first and best source for all of the information you’re looking for. From general topics to more of what you would expect to find here, ubuntu.org has it all. We hope you find what you are searching for! Think of it as an 'all in one' toolkit. oh, and for just the gcc. > **[Installing GCC: Binaries - GNU Project](http://gcc.gnu.org/install/binaries.html)** > > Installing GCC: Binaries although you might need cygwin (unix environment for windows) > **···** > > On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Yusuf Celik wrote: > > > Yusuf Celik wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > > > Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote: > > > > > > > bcc32 support will be obsolete. > > > > > > May I ask the reason? > > > > So no reason, ok, fair enough. > > > > I have another question then > > Where can I get gcc compiler and how to use to build ruby.exe ? > > > > Thanks in advance > > yc > > > > -- > > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). > > --------------------------------------------| > If you're not living on the edge, > then you're just wasting space. ---
**Author:** ![Nobuyoshi\_Nakada1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nobuyoshi\_Nakada1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Nobuyoshi_Nakada1)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 21:52 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/9 "2007-07-13T21:52:29Z")
Hi, At Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:16:20 +0900, Yusuf Celik wrote in [ruby-talk:259294]: > \>\> bcc32 support will be obsolete. > \> > \> May I ask the reason? > So no reason, ok, fair enough. \* it doesn't support C89 standard (can't initialize aggregate   types with dynamic values). \* tools (named as make.exe, grep.exe confusingly) work quirkily   or curiously. \* the maintainer doesn't have enough time to keep the code up   to date. > **···** > > -- > Nobu Nakada ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Perrin1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Chad\_Perrin1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Chad_Perrin1)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2007 06:27 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/10 "2007-07-14T06:27:59Z")
You probably just needed to wait a little bit for the answer to come through. I see that, since you posted this, someone posted an answer to the previous question. Some questions take longer than others to get answered. Some don't ever get answered -- but it's usually a good idea to give it a day or two to be sure. If not a day, at least longer than five hours in the early morning. If only one or two people on the list know the answer to your questions (like why bcc is becoming obsolete), and they don't check the email account until evening, 6 AM is probably a little early to give up. I hope I don't sound like a nag. . . . > **···** > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 09:16:20PM +0900, Yusuf Celik wrote: > > > Yusuf Celik wrote: > > \> Thanks for the reply. > > \> > > \> Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote: > > \>\> bcc32 support will be obsolete. > > \> > > \> May I ask the reason? > > So no reason, ok, fair enough. > > > > I have another question then > > Where can I get gcc compiler and how to use to build ruby.exe ? > > -- > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [[http://ccd.apotheon.org](http://ccd.apotheon.org) ] > MacUser, Nov. 1990: "There comes a time in the history of any project when > it becomes necessary to shoot the engineers and begin production." ---
**Author:** ![M\_Edward\_Ed\_Borasky1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@M\_Edward\_Ed\_Borasky1](https://rubytalk.org/u/M_Edward_Ed_Borasky1)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2007 06:46 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/11 "2007-07-14T06:46:29Z")
Chad Perrin wrote: > > Thanks Chad, > > I am really glad that somebody's heard my scream. > > I never used gcc before. But I think I will give it a go. > > I've been using Borland c++ for a while and quite happy with it. > > And now there is a free version can search using "Borland's Free C++ > > Compiler ". > > > > I guess the problem is in the make file regarding the include directory. > > Since I have no experience with Makefiles I don't know how to fix it. > > > > Thanks again Chad appreciated. > > > > With kindest regards > > You're quite welcome. > > Sometimes, something that compiles with one compiler doesn't with > another. Generally, GCC and the MS compiler are among the most important > compilers to people who write software like the Ruby, Perl, and Python > interpreters. I tend to guess the Intel compiler might be third place. > > That's one reason I brought up the GCC compiler (the other being you > indicated you had no interest in using the MS compiler). I just thought > you might want to know some more about my reasoning. On most "non-Gnu" systems, the native compiler (MS on Windows, Sun's compilers on Solaris, etc.) are in first place. On Gnu systems, GCC is in first place. In high-performance computing, I know people who won't use GCC on an Intel platform, even Linux, but use the Intel compiler. I actually think I had a copy of the Intel compiler at one point -- there's a version you can download for evaluation purposes. But I gave away my last Intel box, a P3, and am now a pure AMD lab. 🙂 > **···** > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 04:16:23PM +0900, Yusuf Celik wrote: ---
**Author:** ![Forum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/43a26b/32.png) [@Forum](https://rubytalk.org/u/Forum)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 12:37 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/12 "2007-07-13T12:37:31Z")
Hmm Mingw should be enough[still cygwin is a good thing to have IMHO] only that there is no need to install all that stuff only to compile Ruby? [http://www.mingw.org/](http://www.mingw.org/) HTH Robert > **···** > > On 7/13/07, Ari Brown \ wrote: > > > [www.ubuntu.org](http://www.ubuntu.org) > > > > Think of it as an 'all in one' toolkit. > > > > oh, and for just the gcc. > > [Installing GCC: Binaries - GNU Project](http://gcc.gnu.org/install/binaries.html) > > > > although you might need cygwin (unix environment for windows) > > -- > I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java. > I just didn't know it would be called Ruby > -- Kent Beck ---
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [16 July 2007 11:20 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/13 "2007-07-16T11:20:31Z")
Thanks all, You've allocated your valuable time to answer my question. I am really greatfull for that. I still don't know how to build ruby using MinGW. This is my last question on this topic. Thank in advance yc > **···** > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2007 14:06 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/14 "2007-07-13T14:06:37Z")
Thanks all, I've downloaded and installed MinGW. In VC++ win32\configure.bat and then run nmake. So what is the next step to build ruby for MinGW? Thanks in advance yc > **···** > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [18 July 2007 11:15 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/15 "2007-07-18T11:15:48Z")
At least you can lead me to an internet page. Thanks yc Yusuf Celik wrote: > **···** > > > Thanks all, > > > > You've allocated your valuable time to answer my question. > > I am really greatfull for that. > > I still don't know how to build ruby using MinGW. > > This is my last question on this topic. > > > > Thank in advance > > yc > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_K1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/rubytalk.org/robert_k1/32/1830_2.png) [@Robert\_K1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Robert_K1)\ **Post date:** [18 July 2007 11:26 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/16 "2007-07-18T11:26:17Z")
Adding to the mix of information: if you use cygwin anyway you can as well use the cygwin ruby package. It's even more hassle free than compiling yourself. Just my 0.02EUR... Kind regards robert > **···** > > 2007/7/18, Yusuf Celik \: > > > At least you can lead me to an internet page. ---
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [18 July 2007 12:09 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/17 "2007-07-18T12:09:12Z")
Thanks Robert, Where can I find any info. regarding how to use cygwin? Because, I am windows user and no clue how to use cygwin. With kindest regards yc Robert Klemme wrote: > **···** > > > 2007/7/18, Yusuf Celik \: > > > > > At least you can lead me to an internet page. > > > > Adding to the mix of information: if you use cygwin anyway you can as > > well use the cygwin ruby package. It's even more hassle free than > > compiling yourself. Just my 0.02EUR... > > > > Kind regards > > > > robert > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Perrin1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Chad\_Perrin1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Chad_Perrin1)\ **Post date:** [18 July 2007 20:03 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/18 "2007-07-18T20:03:06Z")
Cygwin webpage:   [http://cygwin.com](http://cygwin.com) Many Cygwin resources:   [cygwin - Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?q=cygwin) It's basically a Unix toolset for MS Windows. Google is your friend: just searching for "cygwin" gave me the main Cygwin website as the first hit. > **···** > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 09:09:12PM +0900, Yusuf Celik wrote: > > > Thanks Robert, > > > > Where can I find any info. regarding how to use cygwin? > > Because, I am windows user and no clue how to use cygwin. > > -- > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [[http://ccd.apotheon.org](http://ccd.apotheon.org) ] > MacUser, Nov. 1990: "There comes a time in the history of any project when > it becomes necessary to shoot the engineers and begin production." ---
**Author:** ![Yusuf\_Celik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@Yusuf\_Celik](https://rubytalk.org/u/Yusuf_Celik)\ **Post date:** [19 July 2007 06:39 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/19 "2007-07-19T06:39:56Z")
Thanks Chad for the response, To start from the beginning, I wanted to use bcc32 to build ruby, but Nobuyoshi Nakada said that bcc32 support will be absolute. Since I had no intention of using M$$$ compiler I asked for an alternative one. I was lead to usign gcc (MingGW) which is free and can be used to build ruby for Win32. But I am stuck on how to build ruby using gcc: For ms compiler the steps are: 1.Execute win32\configure.bat on your build directory. 2.Run nmake But I don't know the step for MinGW. Thanks in advance With kindest regards yc Chad Perrin wrote: > **···** > > > Cygwin webpage: > >   [http://cygwin.com](http://cygwin.com) > > > > Many Cygwin resources: > >   [cygwin - Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?q=cygwin) > > > > It's basically a Unix toolset for MS Windows. Google is your friend: > > just searching for "cygwin" gave me the main Cygwin website as the first > > hit. > > -- > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/\](http://www.ruby-forum.com/%5C). ---
**Author:** ![Nobuyoshi\_Nakada1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nobuyoshi\_Nakada1](https://rubytalk.org/u/Nobuyoshi_Nakada1)\ **Post date:** [19 July 2007 07:04 UTC](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067/20 "2007-07-19T07:04:44Z")
Hi, At Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:39:56 +0900, Yusuf Celik wrote in [ruby-talk:260678]: > For ms compiler the steps are: > 1.Execute win32\configure.bat on your build directory. > 2.Run nmake > > But I don't know the step for MinGW. autoconf && ./configure CC='gcc -mno-cygwin' && make && make install DESTDIR="anywhere you want install to" > **···** > > -- > Nobu Nakada [Next page](https://rubytalk.org/t/building-ruby-with-bcc32/39067.md?page=2)