Answer on 'lists.bttr.org unreachable?'

Hi!

This message goes to ruby-talk and Ralf Geschke (technical contact
for bttr.org according to whois database). Maybe the translation is
to imprecise (it is a quick-and-dirty one), in that case please
correct me.

Seemingly lists.bttr.org has been offline for at least several
days. Is that only a temporary problem? There were questions
concering this issue on the english Ruby mailing list and on
comp.lang.ruby. It would be nice if you bring some light into the
darkness.

Translation of answer:

The problem exists since last friday. FYI: lists.bttr.org (and
therefore all mail stuff of bttr.org) relies on a machine with
sponsored connection. I repeatedly did try to reach them to contact
the company but to no avail. I only have sporadic contact to that
company or rather only the machine resides there so up to now I
don’t have any information what did happen. Maybe some hard disk
did fail or something like this. (A hard disk problem would not be
that much a problem. A backup does exist so data could be saved or
transferred. Due to the distance I cannot simply go there. On the
other hand the hosting is for free so I can’t to the same extent
put pressure onto them as I would do if it were an ordinary
provider.

I could move the mail service to this machine (that hosts the web
presence of bttr.org) but without access to the data that doesn’t
make much sense. All lists members would need to be informed and
would need to subscribe again - but how to contact them without a
list of the list members?

I strongly dislike that situation and the present state of the
list. I will again try to contact the company in the hope that they
will inform me what went wrong.

In order to inform members of the list I will set up a page on
www.bttr.org (directly linked on the homepage).

Gis,

Josef ‘Jupp’ Schugt

Josef ‘Jupp’ Schugt wrote:

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Thank you very much for this translation. :slight_smile:

I’ve set up the promised information page, please have a look at
http://www.bttr.org/ruby-de.php

Please mail me your ideas and feedback, because I don’t
want to decide about the next steps without the ruby community
in Germany.

Thanks & Best regards,
Ralf

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The French ruby mailing list is hosted by ruby-lang.org.
Why not just do the same with the German one (if that's okay
for the ruby-lang.org administrators)?

Or are there benefits in hosting it on bttr.org?

Regards,

  Michael

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On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:20:39AM +0900, Ralf Geschke wrote:

Josef 'Jupp' Schugt wrote:

[...]
Thank you very much for this translation. :slight_smile:

I've set up the promised information page, please have a look at
http://www.bttr.org/ruby-de.php

Please mail me your ideas and feedback, because I don't
want to decide about the next steps without the ruby community
in Germany.

Michael Neumann wrote:

The French ruby mailing list is hosted by ruby-lang.org.
Why not just do the same with the German one (if that’s okay
for the ruby-lang.org administrators)?

Or are there benefits in hosting it on bttr.org?

No, and I have no problem with hosting the list by
another server - the reasons for bttr.org are more -
hmm, historical. So if it would be possible to create
a list on ruby-lang.org, please do!

But I think this doesn’t solve the recent problem,
the former members have to subscribe again, until I
can get access to one of the server harddisks…

Best regards,
Ralf

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