ActiveState Contest

ActiveState is holding a contest to determine ‘your favorite programmer’
(awards to be given at OSCON). However, they have no option for choosing
Ruby developers at their voting page. Perhaps this is an oversight which
could be rectified if brought to their attention.

(Their announcement is at:
http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Communications/Releases/Press1052761374.html
)

-pate

Pat Eyler
Kaitiaki/manager migrant Linux sys admin
the Koha project ruby, shell, and perl geek
http://www.koha.org http://pate.eylerfamily.org

Hi –

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On Wed, 14 May 2003, Pat Eyler wrote:

ActiveState is holding a contest to determine ‘your favorite programmer’
(awards to be given at OSCON). However, they have no option for choosing
Ruby developers at their voting page. Perhaps this is an oversight which
could be rectified if brought to their attention.

They say that “Awards will be presented in each of ActiveState’s key
technologies: Perl, PHP, Python, Tcl, and XSLT.” I don’t think Ruby
(at the moment) belongs on that list, does it? (I mean based on what
ActiveState does, not based on merit obviously :slight_smile:

David


David Alan Black
home: dblack@superlink.net
work: blackdav@shu.edu
Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav

Hi –

ActiveState is holding a contest to determine ‘your favorite programmer’
(awards to be given at OSCON). However, they have no option for choosing
Ruby developers at their voting page. Perhaps this is an oversight which
could be rectified if brought to their attention.

They say that “Awards will be presented in each of ActiveState’s key
technologies: Perl, PHP, Python, Tcl, and XSLT.” I don’t think Ruby
(at the moment) belongs on that list, does it? (I mean based on what
ActiveState does, not based on merit obviously :slight_smile:

On the other hand, they say that Ruby is not one of their key technologies
because they don’t hear enough about it in the marketplace. Perhaps this
is a good opportunity to speak up and let them hear about it. (Or, I
could just be tilting at windmills again.)

-pate

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On Wed, 14 May 2003 dblack@superlink.net wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2003, Pat Eyler wrote:

David


David Alan Black
home: dblack@superlink.net
work: blackdav@shu.edu
Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav

Hi –

Hi –

ActiveState is holding a contest to determine ‘your favorite programmer’
(awards to be given at OSCON). However, they have no option for choosing
Ruby developers at their voting page. Perhaps this is an oversight which
could be rectified if brought to their attention.

They say that “Awards will be presented in each of ActiveState’s key
technologies: Perl, PHP, Python, Tcl, and XSLT.” I don’t think Ruby
(at the moment) belongs on that list, does it? (I mean based on what
ActiveState does, not based on merit obviously :slight_smile:

On the other hand, they say that Ruby is not one of their key technologies
because they don’t hear enough about it in the marketplace. Perhaps this
is a good opportunity to speak up and let them hear about it. (Or, I
could just be tilting at windmills again.)

I spoke to Gurusamy Sarathy of ActiveState at Linux Expo in New York
recently about Ruby, and he said that the main obstacle to their
getting involved with Ruby is [dare I say this and risk starting a
thead? :] licensing, specifically of the regular expression engine.

I’m afraid I don’t know any more about it, but there may be people who
do, so over to them :slight_smile:

David

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On Wed, 14 May 2003, Pat Eyler wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2003 dblack@superlink.net wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2003, Pat Eyler wrote:


David Alan Black
home: dblack@superlink.net
work: blackdav@shu.edu
Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav

In article Pine.LNX.4.44.0305131458230.9307-100000@candle.superlink.net,

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dblack@superlink.net wrote:

Hi –

On Wed, 14 May 2003, Pat Eyler wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2003 dblack@superlink.net wrote:

Hi –

On Wed, 14 May 2003, Pat Eyler wrote:

ActiveState is holding a contest to determine ‘your favorite programmer’
(awards to be given at OSCON). However, they have no option for choosing
Ruby developers at their voting page. Perhaps this is an oversight which
could be rectified if brought to their attention.

They say that “Awards will be presented in each of ActiveState’s key
technologies: Perl, PHP, Python, Tcl, and XSLT.” I don’t think Ruby
(at the moment) belongs on that list, does it? (I mean based on what
ActiveState does, not based on merit obviously :slight_smile:

On the other hand, they say that Ruby is not one of their key technologies
because they don’t hear enough about it in the marketplace. Perhaps this
is a good opportunity to speak up and let them hear about it. (Or, I
could just be tilting at windmills again.)

I spoke to Gurusamy Sarathy of ActiveState at Linux Expo in New York
recently about Ruby, and he said that the main obstacle to their
getting involved with Ruby is [dare I say this and risk starting a
thead? :] licensing, specifically of the regular expression engine.

Isn’t that why a new regex engine is being written - apparently the old
one was GPL and they want a more BSD-like license. Though, I really don’t
understand what the problem with GPL was in this context…

Phil

Hi,

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In message “Re: ActiveState Contest” on 03/05/14, Phil Tomson ptkwt@shell1.aracnet.com writes:

Isn’t that why a new regex engine is being written - apparently the old
one was GPL and they want a more BSD-like license. Though, I really don’t
understand what the problem with GPL was in this context…

Probably they want something GPL free. Perl is under dual license
Ruby is under a similar dual license, but regex.[ch] is still LGPL.
So they need to wait until 1.9 (where the new engine will be available).

						matz.

Isn't that why a new regex engine is being written - apparently the old
one was GPL and they want a more BSD-like license. Though, I really don't
understand what the problem with GPL was in this context...

The problem is that they have written there own debugger (for the
language and for there regexpr tool). I can understand that they don't
want to see there code also becoming GPL'ed.

But regex.c is LGPL so it should be less “infectious” than GPL,
shouldn’t it?

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On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 05:07:57AM +0900, Lothar Scholz wrote:

Isn’t that why a new regex engine is being written - apparently the old
one was GPL and they want a more BSD-like license. Though, I really don’t
understand what the problem with GPL was in this context…

The problem is that they have written there own debugger (for the
language and for there regexpr tool). I can understand that they don’t
want to see there code also becoming GPL’ed.


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